Zoomers & Boomers are the same

It's the 1% vs the working class, not generation vs generation.

I teach high school and it's amazing to me how much these kids don't know how to use a computer. They can click a button and get to tik-tok. They read the first answer the AI gives them. That's it.

I keep telling them they should be better at computers than an old lady like me.

I've long said that I believe Millennials, as a generational cohort, are the best at typing that ever has been and ever will be. We were the first generation where adults really recognized that we'd be using computers our entire lives and took steps to teach typing. But, so much more importantly than that, we socialized through typing. I had typing classes in school, sure, but I learned to type quickly on AIM and in chat rooms.

Earlier generations only really typed for business or school. Later generations socialize over phones, so they, too, only use a physical keyboard for school and business.

I guess I should amend this theory to include all tech literacy in general.

There are tech savvy people in every generation and some dumbos. IMO the low bar for being tech savvy has nothing to do with PDFs, it's whether or not you can install a functioning operating system on a device. Anyone who can do that can figure out any of that other stuff.

To be fair, PDFs suck and the only software that handles them well is paid and proprietary

There's one generation between boomers and zoomers? I'm pretty confident I know who it is you're forgetting.

I was pretty worthless with computers at 16 too.

Now I’m almost 40 and I’m working In the industry and slowly getting worse again

Is this some Acrobat functionality or something?

Off the top of my head, there's pdfjam, pdftk and imagemagick (don't forget the --dpi switch) who could probably do that, after reading the man pages. Or ghostscript' gs, if you want to go in-depth.

But generally, just rotate the source material you've got the pdf from. That's how it is intended.

The thing is most of us cant even rotate a pdf, but we do know how to learn it.

Guess me and my partner are exceptional zoomers? Them having a diploma in computer science and i am a software developer

I've trained a lot of 18-22 y/os in the last 10 years and they are fine. Let's not become the boomers please...

Eh PDFs are just annoying to deal with. I could do this stuff the adobe acrobat when I had the paid version in school but I'm cheap and no longer have it. If I'm feeling desperate I'll find the ghostscript command that does it otherwise I just do something horrible (for example scanning to jpeg rather than PDF creating an HTML page with both images and printing that to PDF)

From writing a limited amount of code to generate PDFs from scratch the standard is just cursed. It was using 7 bit ASCII until fairly recently resulting in an eighth of the document being wasted space. Also when they switched to PDFs being an open standard the specs went from something freely available on adobe's web site to a challege of how to send 98 swiss francs to ISO to get access.

it depends on the person. some zoomers are great with tech, hardware and software. others aren't. same goes for every generation. this reeks of the "haha let's shit on the younger generations" millennials have been mad about for years

Never judge a fish by how well it climbs a tree.

The only reason we have to rotate the PDFs is because they can't figure out how to use the sheet-feed scanner. Theres a picture embossed in the thing! And a sign that we put next to the button!

2 generations. Gen X and Millennials are both of the right age to properly understand computers.

Boomers: analogue phones and rolodexes. The nerdy ones knew Morse Code, though.

Gen X: grew up with picture books on assembly language programming

Millennials: know how to use Microsoft Word and Photoshop. Perhaps can unfuck Windows Registry keys if needed.

GenZ: “What’s a file?”

Just helped build my 12 year old cousin his first computer and was forced into putting Windows on it. Now, I get that it's important that he at least understand what the "normal OS" is, but I did want to put at least Mint or something on there. Zoomers and Alpha really don't know how to navigate even the basics, though, and this kid was no exception.

Well, technically I wanted to put something based on Arch but even I know that's a bad idea for a sink or swim computer moment.

Well yeah I didn't learn at all about computers even in high school, when students did use a computer it was a cheap Chromebook. I bearly grew up with computers and thats the same for most people, the difference is I have autism so I hyprfocus on computers :3

I just copied from my phone and pasted to my steam deck. I still got it.

Correction: there are 10 generations that know technology inside and out. IYKYK.

My son types with his pointers.. he turns 14 this month, and has already learned how to type in school. 🤦🏼‍♂️ Types exactly like my dad, only minus the thick glasses.

"Am I out of touch? No! It's everyone else who is wrong" - millennials

Yes you are a monolith block when born in a certain age group.
Nothing wrong with that statement apparently.
Divide and conquer.

To be fair, I don't actually know how to rotate a pdf. I re-learn it every few years, then immediately forget it again.

Helped a Zoomer coworker build a PC for gaming and was then shocked watching him try to navigate Windows and being confused on basic things. Then I realized that, yeah, he probably never really used a desktop for much unlike us Millennials who grew up sitting at desks. He’s doing much better a couple years later so they are definitely able to adapt though!

I thought they would be wiz kids...

I have never rotated a PDF

And I can't actually imagine why you'd need to?

But I can imagine it's pretty simple, like "print" then "print to pdf" and landscape? Or something?