First and 2nd gen Nest Thermostats will lose support in Oct 2025
First and 2nd gen Nest Thermostats will lose support in Oct 2025

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Google announces 1st and 2nd gen Nest Thermostats will lose support in October 2025

First and 2nd gen Nest Thermostats will lose support in Oct 2025
Google announces 1st and 2nd gen Nest Thermostats will lose support in October 2025
Google assimilated and ruined the brand Nest. I don't know who created the thermostats, but they will be shut down, like all the others, once the enshittified products generate too little income.
Dude, they're 11 years old.
Edit: These are not 'just thermostats'. These are computers that are meant to connect to the Internet. 11 years of support for a computer is a long time.
When a computer's support reaches EoL, it's no longer secure. You don't want devices that are vulnerable to connect to your servers, so from a SecOps standpoint blocking their access makes sense.
It's not like these thermostats are going to be useless. You can still use them as thermostats, just not with the cloud service.
But I get it. Any logic or reason that disagrees with the hive mind craving to hate literally anything a company does will get downvoted to hell.
My current thermostat is at least 20 years old. What's your point? That we should accept big tech telling us to throw our devices away long before they've outlived their usefulness because their programmers can't do their jobs without an ever growing 16-layered ball of code that performs like crap?
And still work fine.
It’s a fucking thermostat my dude that’s not very old have you ever been in a house
It's a thermostat, my parents still have one of those goldtone Honeywell ones with a dial from like the 1960's. The only reason the app won't work is because they can't be bothered to support it. Stop making things obsolescent, make it mandatory that all this crap has a set support time after which it must be open sourced.
We shouldn't be forced to replace tech this frequently. If you are comfortable shelling out money for the next big thing that is on you. The rest of us want functioning products that last.
Why would you care about an insecure device connecting to your servers if the server is connected to the internet?
Any packet can be from an attacker and your server has to deal with that regardless if the computer you've sold is the one attacking.
Sounds like security through obscurity. Or some shit manufacturer says to force users to upgrade.
You might argue it's there to protect the user from state actors attacking during winter. Which would be fair. But they did not disclose the actual reason why they EoL'd the device as insecure, seems shady.
Still the correct response should be retuning probably half of the money for the device to any user that proves ownership, instead of this entrapment. No one buying a thermostat expects it to work for only 5-11 years.
I agree with almost everything you said, save for the 'cloud service'. Simply, the only thing any device needs to connect to for me is either my router or my Home Assistant instance. On a related note, I'm tired of being farmed for data, especially when I don't use advertising or any kind of invasive technique to make purchasing decisions. As for bug fixes thanks to anonymous data, if I see any issues I'll go to the devs. If it isn't broken I don't need a fix.
I can think of many times being connected to external servers have been detrimental. I definitely don't want any half-baked features/enshittification like AI detection, I just want CCTV (Reolink); I don't want good features that I use to be removed just because the majority never used Snap, and voice control was great until 'Xbox' became 'Hey Cortana' then removed (Xbox).
Cloud connection does far more than give users external connectivity and cool stuff like remote control with your phone. It brings unwanted extras. The other issue is I bet there is no way for a consumer to replace the cloud service with their own, personal system (therefore extremely safe from hacks compared to a centralised system).
I don't need this much assistance.
HiVe MiNd.
No, you're just a dumbass.