US citizen wrongfully arrested by border patrol in Arizona held for nearly 10 days
US citizen wrongfully arrested by border patrol in Arizona held for nearly 10 days
Official claimed Jose Hermosillo, who was visiting Arizona, was ‘without the proper immigration documents’
Summary
Immigration officials detained a US citizen for nearly 10 days in Arizona, according to court records and press reports.
On 8 April, a border patrol official found Hermosillo “without the proper immigration documents” and claimed that the young American had admitted entering the US illegally from Mexico.
On 17 April, a federal judge dismissed his case. “He did say he was a US citizen, but they didn’t believe him.”
“Under the Trump administration’s theory of the law, the government could have banished this U.S. citizen to a Salvadoran prison then refused to do anything to bring him back,” Mark Joseph Stern, a legal analyst for Slate, wrote on Bluesky. “This is why the Constitution guarantees due process to all. Could it be more obvious?”
claimed that the young American had admitted entering the US illegally from Mexico.
Unless the citizen was dumb enough to say such a thing, not impossible, this was a straight up lie and the officer should be in jail for submitting a false report.
And even if the kids did say this thing, it would in no way prejudice his absolute right to remain in the country. Even if he did cross the border illegally without presenting at a port of entry, he would still have the right to enter and remain.
They probably asked him something like "Did you use an official checkpoint to get into the US from Mexico?" And he said "No" because he didn't enter at all, but they interpreted it as he crossed illegally.
- based on the articles about this, that's probably not what happened and they just flat out lied, just like they did in the other recent case of detained US citizen
- even if they DID ask that and he for whatever reason answered "no" and refused to elaborate and never bothered to mention that he was a US citizen (hint: not what happened - he said he was a citizen every step of the way), that is still not "admitting to being here illegally" and portraying it as such is a deliberate misrepresentation
Fascist don't need your help, especially if you just have conjecture on your side.
Naw
They're doubling down on that claim:
But a senior official with the Department of Homeland Security rejected the allegations. “The narrative being pushed about Jose Hermosillo is false,” the official said via email. “On April 8, Hermosillo approached Border Patrol in Tucson and stated he had entered the U.S. illegally through Nogales. He said he wanted to turn himself in and completed a sworn statement identifying as a Mexican citizen who had entered unlawfully.
I'm certain they have video evidence that this is the case and will release it soon so we can all see they were doing things by the book. /s
* without due process.
Remember folks, if they'll do it to the most vulnerable, they'll do it to the rest of us just ass soon as they feel its safe to do so. it is inevitable.
And for the idiots thinking we're not in Nazis America... Plenty of germans said the same sort of things with Hitler's take over in the early 1930's.
Well that'll serve him right, going around the place looking vaguely foreign.
Feels like there should be large disruptive protests around wherever ICE is headquartered. Surely they have offices?
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Heh heh.
I’m not American so it’s kinda legitimate question.
Are there any good people working for ICE? Or is being an abusive racist cunt part of the requirement?
(I guess there are probably nice normal peoples working there but they are probably too afraid to stand up)
Edit: Wow, I didn’t meant to start such a heated debate. It’s just that from an EU perspective, you have tons of law enforcement from county to federal level, plus the military. But it’s always ICE that you can see doing the awful shit to other human beings. You don’t hear about ATF detaining a kid while showing him rape video of his mother (it did not happen, yet), it has to be ICE, it’s always ICE. Hence the question, what’s the difference between ICE employees and ATF/FBI/local PD/whatever employees?
There are no good people in ICE. It doesn't matter how they present themselves outside of work, they're all Fascist class traitors willingly upholding and legitimizing a Fascist regime, detaining and deporting citizens and immigrants alike ILLEGALLY, and filling the role of the Gestapo from Fascist Germany. Being abusive, racist, and a bastard probably isn't mandatory for the role, but it's the overwhelming majority of people who work there.
Do not pity or feel sorry for them, they'd kill you if they could get away with it.
There are no good people in ICE.
Boy, I sure do hate ICE right now so this is hard to do but you’re saying if someone works for ICE they are, by that fact alone, a bad person?
That’s an awful lot like forgoing due process and determining someone’s “guilt” because you said so.
I’m pretty disgusted at those who don’t have the integrity to do what’s right, to take a stand to the unlawful and immoral orders they’re being given. I wouldn’t blame anyone who used any amount of force e to defend themselves from ICE at this point since they have no reason to believe that their rights or due process will be respected and it may be their life on the line.
Respectfully, though, I think you’re wrong to paint with such a broad brush. Life can be easier to deal with in such stark black and white terms but it’s never that simple.
A bad apple spoils the bunch.
We tend to leave the spoiling part out of the metaphor for some reason...
Official claimed Jose Hermosillo, who was visiting Arizona, was ‘without the proper immigration documents’
I got a great idea from a history book! How about all of us brown people start wearing an arm band!
It could be really cool to see all of us come together... In the gas chamber or the self powering ovens.
Like do they toss us into an existing fire dead or alive? Do they need us to dehydrate first? Do we eat doritos since those things are like dry fuel? And what do we do between falling into the fire and dying. Is it best to scratch our names on the wall? Find someone to make love with one last time? Screams in fear? Just scratch the walls?
Mr. President, these are really important questions. Please have god answer those things for us when we're there peeing ourselves. Like a nice retirement would have been good. But blood stained last message to the world, I suppose that could work for me.
Furnaces in German death camps were necessary, because this part of Europe was densely populated, so there were nowhere to store bodies where they wouldn't interfere with the comfort of the general population. USA has so many generous swaths of uninhabited dirt, they'll just take some state with area of bigger European country and population of average European city like like Wyoming, and move all the undesirables there to live and thrive in Freedom Settlements, producing all the goods that aren't coming from China anymore.
Don't forget, "wrongfully" means incorrectly, i.e. against the law; it doesn't mean "wrong" as in "unethical." Practically every such detention should be considered wrong.