Remember those million pre-orders Tesla allegedly had for the Cybertruck, according to CEO Elon Musk? It's getting tougher and tougher for the company to explain where all of them went.
After putting around 50,000 Cybertrucks on the road, according to a recent recall filing, the company appears to be out of pre-orders and desperately looking to juice demand. Case in point: It's now offering up to $10,000 off certain Cybertrucks it has in inventory.
so....they intentionally lied to artificially increase demand and make their product look more compelling? can we get some fucking consumer protections regulations for fucks sake?? they're killing us out there
This would be a matter for the Securities and Exchange Commission to come crashing down on them. This kind of statement is designed to manipulate the market, and in a normal world, would be heavily punished.
No. The article doesn't talk about preorders at all, and they are completely meaningless and obviously a "preorder" for a car with just a 100$ deposit doesn't mean anything. That's basically just signing up for a mailing list. The cyber truck as announced was ugly but with really good specs for only 40k$. It was shit and the price was minimum 70k so it didn't sell well.
Preorders aren't a legally defined or protected term or anything, who wants to regulate that? It's basically just a list of emails signups so it doesn't mean anything at all.
Good, but for fucks sake, can we get just a standard two door, full sized, long bed electric truck that can actually do some work and not be a god damn pavement princess, suburban male, penis extender?
Given your opinions are on the reasonable side of truck owners
What advantage does a truck have over a panel van for work use?
Yes I'm European. Yes I actually want a truck for some unknown social reason. But every time I look at trucks I think the beds are either too small or I think my shit is going to get wet back there. An enclosed panel van has a bigger converted storage area.
I do heavy equipment/industrial/marine maintnace and fabrication work. The ability to overhead load things into the bed. Rather than being limited to what is on a pallet with a forklift. Being able have cargo that is longer than the bed of the truck and not have to drive with cab doors open. Being able to install a 5th wheel trailer to tow more than what the standard ball hitch allows. You shure aren't going to make a tow truck out of a van. Bulk cargo? Just show up to quarry or dirt pit load a bucket full or 2 and of you go. Lots of reasons. These are just the basic examples. There's lots more. From welding rigs to just being able to put a skid of drywall in with out hassle.
Well I for one really don't want to try and haul a load of manure in a panel van.
Don't get me wrong, vans are great, my general contractor in-laws used them daily, but there are advantages like being able to haul a stack of plywood or sheet rock without having to have a trailer, being able to haul larger items more easily, towing, and again, easily hauling things like manure or rocks, just get the front loader and dump it in.
For 99% of owners a panel van would be the better option, but their masculinity is tied to other people's perception of them, so they pay the small dick tax.
I rent a truck for the afternoon on the rare occasion I need one
Just get a hybrid Sienna, it comes with a free preinstalled cap on, AWD and sliding doors which shit on normal car/truck doors in terms of practical utility and capacity to do work.
Got to poke around in a Buzz at a local euro car meet. They are larger inside than I imagined in pictures. I could see them being great for contractors in a stripped down version.
I lost my tacoma a few years back and have a 00 tdi golf with a roof rack and a tow hitch. Other than a couple times where I needed to get a lot of 4x8 sheets of subflooring it has handled everything I did with my truck. Water heaters , 12' 6x6", loads of 2x4, 28' ladders , scaffolding etc all go on the roof rack. I'll probably never buy another truck. People joke around when I'm loading material, fuck em.
My beef with Rivian is one I shared with Tesla- their chargers are closed to other brands. That's a mask-off move in my opinion. It's a business decision, not a technical one.
The fact that it got a million pre-orders after he shattered 2 invincible windows on stage would have been a warning about the future of this place. Hindsight and all I suppose though.
At this point, I literally wouldn't drive one for free. My fury at Musk for the pointless destruction he's done to this country overtook my curiosity for what it's like to drive one of those huge, dumb, ugly vehicles with the glued-on panels.
I won’t drive the cybertruck or any of the other newer generation X’s and S’s since they all have yolks instead of steering wheels. A few years back I was rear-ended by a drunk driver on a highway. With about 1/2 second warning I suddenly found myself spinning 360 degrees across 3 lanes, and I was trying my best to steer out of it. I seriously doubt I would have been able to do that with a yoke. My hands likely would have missed as I tried to reposition them.
The yokes, like so many other “features” seem like nothing more than glitz that Musk demanded to differentiate Teslas from other cars. If an independent authority tests yokes vs. wheels in situations like that crash and finds the yokes are as good or better then I’d consider driving a car with one. But given Musk is now trying to kneecap things like NHTSA I’m most definitely not going to hold my breath.
Wow, that's about the best argument for the traditional, time-tested wheel! How do the yolks even work, can you turn them more than 90°? Because if not, they'd have to function like a videogame controller, or have you risk losing your grip as the yolk moves out from under your grasp when you go hand-over-hand...
If I got one for free I'd spend an afternoon dismantling it with a crowbar separating the steel from the aluminum to sell it for scrap, and I'd be the first person to make a profit from a cyber truck.
I don't even think I'd take a Freebie unless it was to immediately sell for cash.
They're dangerous, expensive to own (iphone repair cost model applied to a fuckin car) and you look like you support this sort of thing, which is bad look.
And supporting and encouraging the richest man in the world. Instead of making him richer, we need to bankrupt him, nationalize Space X and Starlink, and shut down anything else he was worming on.
Maybe this time the bullshit will be seen through, but I don't have my hopes up. There are other forces at play keeping the stock up other than reality. It'll be rationalized as "but robotaxis, AI, robots, etc".
This pile of crap is completely impossible to bring to market in any country with reasonable consumer protections and road safety standards. Maybe they could export them to Russia?
I don't know, I think I've seen more than 2-3k of these trucks in Houston alone. Also someone keeps etching "Swastikar" into them. Rumor is they're using an acid etchant like ferric chloride.
I see a few on the road or parked now and then. I cringe every time.
I sometimes think that for a future vehicle I might like to do an EV conversion on an older gas burning, small SUV. Now suddenly I struck by the idea of an EV to EV conversion, to get rid fo the Tesla computers full of spyware. It would still be recognizeable though, not good.