He addresses this by saying a laptop doesn't allow you to replace components, doesn't have mechanical keyboard and there's no ultra wide support.
The funny thing is, this device he's using doesn't allow you to replace components either. And there are 21:9 laptops and mechanical keyboards available.
Seemed like he's trying to reverse-engineer his way into justifying a use case for it, but just failed.
I read that as well, and it addresses none of that. Also, you can replace components on a lot of laptops, and ALL components on a Framework. This is why they are so sought after.
Whoever wrote this is making a bad faith argument and throwing an ignorant assertion out to serve a specific purpose, which...is not stated 🤣
You're not wrong but this is a distinctly different experience. Some these AR glasses allow you to have multiple giant virtual displays instead of the tiny ~14 inch one. Hence the reference to a "desk setup".
Although I would argue that it would make more sense just to plug the glasses into a laptop.
But also you can use your preferred keyboard and mouse (with more space for the mouse).
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This article reads like satire... it's sentence after sentence of "and I did it using one of the [best office chairs]" which is a link to some review by themselves. Every bit mentioned had an affiliate link and there wasn't an actual review of what the experience (software, setup, visual fidelity) is like??
A guy at work asked if he could use some similar pair of AR glasses at work and was rejected because the companion app for it required to always be running as elevated in windows. Was a solid no there.
It's a novel idea. But despite the article's claims this is not a practical alternative to a laptop in planes, coffee shops, etc. Nor is a minipc inherently more serviceable than a laptop as others have pointed out.
For traveling, if it's a longer trip, it almost makes sense to me as you'd have it set up for a while. Though I'd do a mini ITX system. The ones with external power supplies and no drive bays or expansion slots are pretty small. But even then, I don't feel like this would be significantly better than a laptop. And that's a lot to buy for a niche use case.
I've looked at this before and I agree that mini-ITX is probably the most realistic. You want to look hard for a small mini-ITX case. Though even that isn't that small. I think that you could maybe save some space --- the mini-ITX power supply pushes the case size out in one dimension, so there's probably some unused internal volume -- if you could stick components, like the HMD, into part of what would normally be airspace interior to the case.
You wouldn't use a typical SFX power supply for something where size matters; you'd likely use a Flex PSU, which are often long and thin. If you got a lower-power CPU with integrated graphics, you could manage a case that's not much bigger than the motherboard or much thicker than the IO shroud.
Lemmy doesn't have a lot of SFF or Ultra SFF content yet, but getting the most out of limited space is definitely a thing people are into, and they can get quite creative.
The final product is often portable but still rarely as tiny as a mini PC or NUC-like. Depending on your needs, someone might be better off making a Steam Brick.
im a pretty big fan of AR/VR for productivity, reading books, watching films. the resolution and lenses need to be pretty good for the first 2. but it's promising. laying in bed and looking up at a book or movie is really something else. standing up once in a while is great also. i think there is a future here.
I've thought about doing this too, with a very similar setup.
Larger FOV for your screen than anything else portable. Potentially more power efficient too, as you don't blast light everywhere to get a tiny bit into an eye. Can be used in very bright conditions, like outdoors on a bright summer day, without issues. More comfortable to use in some other orientations --- I use a split ergo keyboard with my laptop when lying back in a recliner or on a couch, lets my hands not be jammed in front of me and obstructing my views of the screen, but an HMD is even more flexible.
Laptops have limited hardware customizability, so it's really the only route other than carrying a portable display if you want more control over the PC hardware. Want a 100Wh battery or larger? Non-soldered memory and more of it? More expansion ports or storage slots? Moving the hot-and-noisy stuff beneath the table instead of beneath your hands? For the form factor: have airflow vents that aren't on the bottom and covered up when on a lap (ironically, "laptop"), chest, couch, or bed? If you're a woman and want to use the thing on your belly while lying down, not having your breasts in between your eyes and the screen? For anyone, not having their hands in the way?
Laptops have a lot of limitations as to input devices. Do you want a Trackpoint? You're limited to a very few models of laptop. Trackball? Few laptops and it has to be very small. A trackpad with three physical buttons? Very few laptops on offer make that an option. Particular about your keyboard layout? If you're getting external hardware, there's a cornucopia of options, and you can mix and match as you'd like. Yeah, you can also do this with laptops and a stand and a docking station and external hardware, if you're aiming for use at a particular desk, but that's not really suitable for a couch, say.
The privacy is nice -- and I don't think that that reasonably can be reduced to looking at porn, which I assume most people aren't going to want to do in public anyway, for obvious reasons. I can throw a password list up onscreen, don't need to deal with those inane "hide your password as you type it" things that try to mitigate privacy issues with people using computers in public places.
Problem is that at least today, wearing HMDs is not as comfortable and sharp as looking at a display. Easy to get something slightly blurry if it's not perfectly aligned. My HMD tends to fog up, though the Xreal thing in the article has more airflow and it's probably less of an issue. Also, VR goggles and headphones tend to compete for the same spot around the ears --- circumaural headphones need to seal there, so you may need to accept whatever sound, if any, the HMD can provide. You have less awareness of your surroundings, which matters in some situations.
A lot of work has gone into making laptops particularly low power, and if you build your own system, some of that is on you, to pay attention to component power consumption.
Also, I couldn't find a way to get some kind of external battery to be treated by Linux as a power_supply class device, which lets Linux do things like automatically hibernate when power gets critical and use nice in-UI reporting of low battery. On the power source side, USB PD power banks, which it would seem would be a good solution, technically have the ability to report a battery level but AFAICT do not actually do this, or even present themselves as visible devices on the USB tree. You could probably work something up yourself with a modular battery bank --- at the very least, even if Linux can't use it as a power_supply device, NUT can be rigged up to treat some hardware that you can put on a modular battery bank as a UPS, which accomplishes some of the same stuff, like auto-shutdown. And a modular battery bank is pretty user-configurable. But...that's not necessarily all that portable.
I would definitely do this instead of a laptop if they managed to get HMDs to the point where I'd be willing to dump my displays and go all HMDs. We aren't there yet, though.
Or, and hear me out, I could just carry a single device with a charging cable that weighs less than 5lbs that does all of that without all of the cables and BS associated with trying to be a tech edgelord for clicks. Hell, if that device is a Framework is will probably be way more repairable than that mini PC and probably super fragile AR glasses as well.
I'm pretty sure that the Xreal glasses have a carrying case, based on when I was looking at them. I carry a pair of headphones with my laptop, and they come with one. Does require some volume in a backpack or bag, though.
The only thing that really attracts me about these glasses is that you could hold your head up instead of looking down all the time at a laptop or a portable monitor. But most of the time I need more than one display, while the glasses only offer a single, expensive, fairly low resolution screen. I also wonder what it does to your eyes to use this for long periods of time.
Much to my surprise, it didn’t take long at all to get used to working while wearing AR glasses.
Could you see yourself spending a full day working with smart glasses instead of using a monitor?
For me at least, that "HMD all day" is the limiting factor. I don't want to wear an HMD all day. My experience has been that they're sensitive to being slightly misaligned and going blurry. Traditional displays are nice and crisp.
I think that to be something that I'd want to use, the thing would need to do something like mechanically move the displays or optics internal to the HMD to keep it at a very precise, calibrated position relative to my eyeball, so that I don't need to futz with not having my movements slightly misalign the HMD.
In 2025, we don't have an HMD that can do that.
EDIT: Also, this doesn't matter much if you're watching a movie or something. Not visible then. But it's a visible issue if you're working with text or the like, if you want to full-on replace your display.
The quest 3 stays sharp when alignment changes, its surprisingly nice to work in outside of the brick on my face. I would hope the xreal glasses can match quest 3 clarity
I really would like to try those glasses. They sound cool. But at $500 they are too expensive for an impulse and there is no place around where one can try those offline
I imagine it would be really annoying to set up after taking it out of a backpack. I think it would be much more practical to just use a laptop with the xreal glasses
It's longer than a laptop, but honestly, I have my laptop set up to hibernate if I have it closed for more than ten minutes or so, and it takes several seconds to get that dehibernated, even off NVMe, and some of that is happening in parallel. My last laptop was a lot slower, took something north of ten seconds to get dehibernated. He's gotta drop a keyboard on his desk, unzip his HMD case, and plug each in (if he's not using a wireless keyboard or the wireless accessory for that HMD, neither of which I would personally use). Some of that at least can be parallelized. And that HMD has integrated headphones, IIRC --- I carry headphones with me for my laptop, so he doesn't need to do that bit.
EDIT: Oh, and his trackball/trackpad/mouse or whatever. I carry a trackball with my laptop, but don't usually use it.
While I've also been interested in similar such systems, the author can accomplish one of his goals --- the mechanical keyboard one --- with a fairly-traditional laptop setup: he needs one of those hybrid laptops that has a screen that can swivel to act as a tablet. Then he just converts it to "tablet" mode and uses it as a monitor, without the keyboard sticking out at him, and he can use whatever keyboard he wants without the laptop keyboard being in the way. Does limit the laptop hardware options, though.
And doesn't buy him the other stuff that he's gunning for, like more customizable hardware or a screen with a larger FOV or such.