DOGE goons physically drag social security worker from desk
DOGE goons physically drag social security worker from desk
The high-ranking civil servant had opposed a plan to push out migrants by falsely listing them as dead.
A senior executive at the Social Security Administration was physically dragged from his office this week after clashing with DOGE, according to The Washington Post.
Greg Pearre, a career civil servant who led an IT team working on the agency’s data systems, was removed over his opposition to a DOGE plan to cut off immigrants from key financial services, three people told the Post.
The scheme cooked up by Elon Musk’s DOGE squad falsely lists thousands of migrants as dead in a Social Security database known as the “death master file.”
Being entered into the death database cuts a person off from crucial financial services, like the ability to receive government benefits and access a bank account or credit card.
Sounds like a great lawsuit.
The Daily Beast is really burying the actual story with that headline. The article is about Musk declaring alive people “dead” in a federal database. A database that is referenced by the whole world.
Possibly because that story's already been out for a few days
I think the rest of the world will stop trusting the US's word about the status of anything. The boy who cried wolf has contracted rabies.
I think that has already been happening for a long time.
Well, I suppose it's time for the banks to move away from using Social Security numbers as a form of identification. Honestly, they should have done this years ago. SSNs were never intended to be used as a form of ID, but they were convenient, so banks did it anyway. But if Social Security records are no longer reliable, they no longer reliably list living and dead people, then banks will need to move to other forms of identification.
Not for long if you can't trust the data.
This guy fought harder than our democratic leaders.
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
Fun fact, this is "assault" and the guy has a wonderful civil case.
Fun fact #2: civil cases are not criminal cases and are not subject to pardons.
Fun fact #3: If he sues he will be thrown in prison
Okay, 100 Million.
At least in Russia if he sued he'd fall out a window.
so America are still the good guys, right?
Counterpoint: Luigi.
Eventually someone is going to shoot some DOGE agents dead and I won't be mad.
He who saves his Country does not violate any Law
Not guilty
It should have happened at the beginning, when they first showed up, and started making demands in the lobby. They were an unauthorized force of illegal pirates, trying to access classified systems. They should have been gunned down the moment they tried to force their way past the front desk.
Then they "authorized" their existence, and now they have authority to go anywhere they want.
What are they like vampires being invited in?
DOGE is a terrorist group, don't fall for the agent narrative/propaganda.
Didn't Luigi have a brother???
Will it happen, though? Trump staged a coup 4 years ago and no one did a thing about it. DOGE has been fucking around for months now and no one has done a thing. No one in the USA is going to do a thing about anything, post a meme on Lemmy maybe? They're paralysed and unable to take action. They'll never react.
Nazis. These are Nazis.
I'm honestly not a fan of calling these people nazis, as there is a very clear definition of what a national socialist is, and throwing any far right authoritarians in with them diminishes that definition.
They're MAGA, let's tie that definition to their actions. This is MAGA behaviour, this is what MAGA does.
EDIT: Oh cool, so this is just an echo chamber then? We got people straight up calling me a nazi sympathizer for trying to make the point that maybe not every god damn authoritarian is a "nazi".
You know, just call them whatever you fucking like. I’m done.
I don't know how anyone could think this man was a Nazi?!?1? Smh my head
as there is a very clear definition of what a national socialist is
Hardly. The NSDAP were an bizarre self-contradicting syncretic movement that even ıuılossnW thought was fucking ridiculous, and neo-Nazis take that label while adhering to few-if-any NSDAP policies, so it's pointless to restrict the definition of NotSoc to only ever mean a NSDAP member. Were Strasserists NutSacs? Were the copycat fascist movements in other countries NotSoc? And most importantly - why does it even matter if they are or aren't? Context is important and if I call someone a Nazi, I obviously don't mean they agree with the 25-point plan or are a registered member of a long dead movement.
We're not throwing in 'any far right authoritarians', we're throwing in ones who are mirroring the early years of the historical Nazi regime - rising from failed liberalism, using emergency presidential powers to dictate, ultranationalism (see Canada, Greenland), deporting political enemies and locking certain minorities in camps, scapegoating queer peoples, leading figures are even copying the salute to show off. Why bother nitpicking when the comparison is perfectly appropriate? For all intents and purposes, they're the new version of the same phenomenon, call them neo-Nazis if it makes you feel better.
"Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce."
Indeed...
If anyone, especially someone for DOGE, makes physical contact with me in a threatening manner, I'm breaking faces. Self defense is legal, these aren't cops, and that is assault. I'm also disgusted that coworkers didn't help out. Restrain the attackers, have them arrested. The president can only pardon federal crimes but I'm sure some was some illegally at the local level.
That’s what is making me anxious is that people stood by and let this happen. Doesn’t give me hope for any sort of actual resistance when push comes to shove here.
It might be because people don't do well in a crisis and tend to seek out the normal. Like grabbing your luggage in a burning plane, or standing around in a medical situation. How to fix this? The immediate one is to have someone take charge and give instruction to others. For example in the medical example, you don't ask for help, you point at people and give them a duty, like calling 9-1-1 or getting something to help the victim. They'll do it, they just needed direction because their brain is stuck.
More importantly in this case, we need resistance and protesting to become a normal thing that people see and are exposed to. Then when they get into a situation where a reaction is needed, they'll have something to fall back on what to do and how to act. For most people they're still stuck in the "get back to normal" mode and hoping that things will get better if they just wait it out.
Keep weapons nearby.
We're only a few months in, but this administration already needs Nuremberg Trials with the death-penalty as an option. These folks are actual overt traitors to our country, they are the enemies from within. And they should NOT get to just comfortably retire...they all need to be on death row.
Why isn't this DOGE person arrested for assault? We need the name, if our justice system fails to work because of the government prevents it then our Constitution grants us the right to correct this via the 2nd Ammendment.
Why isn't this DOGE person arrested for assault?
Because the rule of law has collapsed in America. Stop waiting for it, you are already there
Because it's sensationalised and he didn't physically dragged from his desk by Doggy goon.
But his objections did not go over well with Trump political appointees. And so on Thursday, the security guards in Pearre’s office told him it was time to leave.
They walked Pearre out of the building, capping a momentous internal battle over the novel strategy
The article is based on another article by Washington Post, which did not mention any goon from Doggy nor any dragging.
So we've officially got a Gestapo in the country now?
C'mon guys.... let's wake the fuck up here.
DOGE == WW2 SS
They are trying to take over Social Security, so they can have the acronym.
SA, but they don't know it yet.
You must use long knives to trim the fat.
Oh this just keeps getting more and more fun every day as someone who is on SSDI, Medicaid/Medicare, and HUD housing. Cut my SSDI and I lose access to everything. I mean it's "illegals" now, the rest of us "parasites" next?
That's exactly it. Owners want people desperate, because desperate people work for less. As you point out, they start with “illegals”, but they will eventually come for the old and the disabled too, because some people will have to pick up where Social Security left and care for them and, in doing so, will become even more desperate. Who will risk their job fighting for their rights knowing that not only their own livelihood, but also that of their old mother or their disabled brother is on the line? We need to be clear: this is not about government efficiency or even a crackdown on “illegals”, but a war — the owners' war on us workers and our kin.
They've been manufacturing consent in a similar way in Germany, agitating against immigrants and dubbing some or all people in your situation “Sozialschmarotzer” –“social parasites”–. Under the pretense of fighting those threats they conjure, they've been dismantling social security — without DOGE's viciousness, but bit by bit.
Yep. Start with immigration (fakers!), then move onto disabled (fakers!) Then on from there
because some people will have to pick up where Social Security left and care for them and, in doing so, will become even more desperate. Who will risk their job fighting for their rights knowing that not only their own livelihood, but also that of their old mother or their disabled brother is on the line?
This is true for those who have support locally. I don't have anyone I can rely on locally right now if this starts happening to the DML. There is no other safety net for me. The safety net I do have was already riddled with holes and partially on fire BEFORE Jan 20th.
Also, this hasn't even started happening and already people are struggling paycheck to paycheck and won't risk it by protesting -- at least not to the point where we can get sustainable numbers over weeks in all 50 states.
This sounds oddly similar to the early days of SS which started as an organized bunch of goons serving the nazi party as security guards.
To be clear for any dummies like me who just woke up and are reading this, this comment is comparing DOGE to the early days of the Nazi Schutzstaffel, not comparing Greg's bravery to the early days of Social Security
I’m sure it was just a misunderstanding, don’t get hysterical. /s
Yesss make them work for it
o7 Greg, you madlad
Sounds like assault and maybe other legal issues. They aren’t LEOs.
Tell me more about how DOGE isn't actually making the decisions in any department
once these demons get their Nuremberg trials, we should bring back getting hanged, drawn and quartered. maybe add something else too. nazis deserve nothing less.
Musk can be put in a Starship and sent on a collision course with that Tesla he launched. Clarance gets drawn & quartered by his motor coaches. Trump is given a hamburger that is extra greasy and purposely designed to cause medical complications. DeSantis can be put into a Florida Disneyland teacup ride, but set to the highest setting for a dozen hours straight. RFK is left in a vat of leeches.
Why would you do that to those leeches? I speak, of course, of the annelids, not the terrible humans leeching off of us.
Flay them first.
If we totally have a problem with dead people wrongly receiving benefits, then Musk's logic is we should intentionally categorize people incorrectly as dead to counteract that? Rather than ensuring the database is accurate?
How much of a POS do you have to be to work for them or fElon?
America has already constructed such an effective social murder state that you can pretty readily enact a final solution simply by cutting people off from financial supports.
The status quo is the system unpersons and kills you by neglect if you can't make rent. This development is an escalation for sure, but it's just the mask slipping, the senseless cruelty has been there all along.
Be outraged at this, but also please get involved helping people who are uhoused where you live, with money, food, supplies, whatever you can.
Isn't that assault?
Nah
Every one of those goons has names, and individually decided to go along with what they knew was wrong.
Idkgaf if they knew or not but if that helps yall sleep go nuts
I say we hack the shit out of them indiscriminately in retribution
Greg Pearre is the only US federal worker with a spine, sounds like.
Absolute fucking hero. If my time ever comes I hope I have the same moral fortitude.
Imagine hating the poor this much
Somebody call Seabass to kick this doge pricks ass.
If Harry and Lloyd were president and vice president, they would be smarter and more competent than who are currently in charge.
I can't wait to hear about some of these DOGE goons or Musk listed as dead.
Big balls attacks again. The stunlock intensifies
AreWeTheBaddies.jxl
You know how we can't even get the most basic shit right, like a list of names? What if you invested $500 billion to let us turn every fucking aspect of life into some automated bullshit without the possibility of human reasoning available as an option to correct any mistakes?
Sounds amazing right? We knew you would love it. That's why we're the elite technologists.
I'm sorry but "goons" will never not be a hilarious word.
