There's a European lemmy instance! Europe Pub
There's a European lemmy instance! Europe Pub
Welcome to Europe Pub! 🇪🇺
A social network dedicated to everything European - from culture and traditions to current events and daily life across our diverse continent. Share your experiences, discuss news, and connect with fellow Europeans and friends of Europe.
Whether you’re interested in EU politics, travel tips, local cuisine, or simply want to learn more about different European countries and regions, you’ll find your place here.
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Most of the communities are empty or driven by a single person. I appreciate your efforts, but that:'s not how Lemmy works. Communities grow naturally, one by one. You cannot just create 20 communities and hope everybody is jumping in. We can be very happy we have some active communities such as !europe@feddit.org, that are not hosted on lemmy.world.
Besides natural growth, Lemmy is also about trust. It was not easy for !europe@feddit.org to gain trust back from its users after feddit.de failed, but over time it worked out and feddit.org managed to become a reliable and trusted instance within the lemmyverse.
Who promises us that europe.pub won't go down in a month? Who moderates all these communities once they get bigger, that one posting person?
Looking around and in the terms
Europe Pub is operated and sponsored by Tobias Feistmantl, with servers hosted by Hetzner in Germany and is governed by Austrian law.
Yeah, looks like a single person and consequently a single point of failure.
To be fair, almost all instances started like this.
Could be changed easily.
Yes, I'm currently the sole admin and instance provider of Europe Pub, although, there are a few mods already. However, if the instance grows, I'm more than open to move the project into a foundation or something like that.
The sole reason I started it, was to help strengthen the Fediverse and lower the dependence of US social media.
If you want to help, write me a DM.
I'm not the creator of the instance. I just happened upon it and thought it'd be cool to share.
Pertaining empty and small communities, that's how most communities start: one person creates it, people find it and contribute. Most don't just go from 0 to thousands of contributors and followers in a second. It takes time.
Also, I don't see multiple communities on different instances as a problem. We're on the fediverse, not reddit. There doesn't have to be one single "Europe" community. There can be a Europe community on a Europe loving instance, on a Europe hating instance, on an Italian instance and thus posting in Italian or from an Italian perspective, on a teddy bear instance that just talks about European teddy bears, whatever. It seems to me like the centralist mindset is still very ingrained in people despite being in a different place.
Also, I don't understand the feddit.org thing. Why is a German instance "feddit.org" as if it's the main feddit instance?
I never said it should not be done, I just said the approach is likely not successful. I would be careful with the "centralist mindset". Centralization towards instances or towards communities are very much different things.
Also, I don't understand the feddit.org thing. Why is a German instance "feddit.org" as if it's the main feddit instance?
I don't really understand what you mean here, could you elaborate?
Also, I don't understand the feddit.org thing. Why is a German instance "feddit.org" as if it's the main feddit instance?
Originally there was feddit.de with wintermute as admin. But when the fediverse needed him most, he disapeared.
Also if i understand it correctly feddit.org is for the german speaking countries (DE, AT & CH), not just germany.
Also, I don’t see multiple communities on different instances as a problem. We’re on the fediverse, not reddit.
It is an issue when the multiple communities have the same content and rules, and just splinter the conversation.
As someone who is doing most of the heavylifting on !buyeuropean@feddit.uk, I would rather have people posting additional content to it than just crossposting the content to a new community where nobody comments.
Examples:
Also, I don't understand the feddit-org thing. Why is a German instance "feddit-org" as if it's the main feddit instance?
Specifically to accommodate hosting communities like !europe actually. feddit-org is explicitly meant as a de+en (language, not country) instance, adhering to DE/AT/CH law, and hosted in AT.
We had a vote on that topic at some point about that on feddit-de where feddit-org won out against e.g. lemminge-de.
It seems to me like the centralist mindset is still very ingrained in people despite being in a different place.
Centralized services are simply easier to understand. And comments are a major issue: !europe here has vastly more comments than the community of the same name on europe-pub. If both become popular, commenters will split up between the two instances, making both communities seem emptier and more disjoint.
In any case, while I am not super happy about the approach that europe-pub takes, I am happy it exists and provides another option, should things fail in another part of the fediverse.
That said, the Fediverse Foundation, i.e. the Austrian non-profit running this instance feels like a very good home for the moment.
There is no main feddit instance. It can help avoid the calckey problem (calckey.world, the software it ran was originally called calckey, then it rebranded to firefish, then it shut down, and switched to a fork, sharkey). Its just a mix of "fediverse" and reddit.
Thank you for posting this.
!europe@feddit.org has been around for a while now though.
Stuff is getting seriously duplicated here...
Tbh it is a natural consequence of lemmy, and not a bad thing. The fediverse is decentralized, and intended such. It fosters a sort of "competition"
Yeah, I've been noticing this.
How do we avoid this happening?
I'm on !BuyFromEU@feddit.org and it's got 10x more subscribers than this one. What happens if this ends up being just as busy? The community is fragmented? This surely hurts attempts at moving people to here from Reddit.
@pantherina @atro_city
There are some proposed solutions in this article: https://popcar.bearblog.dev/lemmy-needs-to-fix-its-community-separation-problem/Interesting!
I think it would make most sense to join instances into a group, so when a user posts in one community, the community clones the post to the others.
Crossposting doesnt even work, but there should be a post type so that all content is read-only and the interactions (likes, comments) are redirected to the original post
It's only a problem if you find decentralisation a problem, which I don't.
To help you find instances:
General
!europePub@europe.pub
Society
Tech
!ETS@europe.pub
Culture
Countries
- !france@europe.pub
- !germany@europe.pub
- !austria@europe.pub
- !turkey@europe.pub
- !unitedkingdom@europe.pub
- !denmark@europe.pub
- !ukraine@europe.pub
- !sweden@europe.pub
- !belgium@europe.pub
- !ireland@europe.pub
- !norway@europe.pub
- !dach@europe.pub
- !italy@europe.pub
- !netherlands@europe.pub
- !estonia@europe.pub
- !spain@europe.pub
- !romania@europe.pub
- !finland@europe.pub
- !croatia@europe.pub
The more the merrier, long live the fediverse!
Cheers to that!
Thanks for the shoutout! Every feedback and help is appreciated. :)
Let's bring social media to Europe together!