Tesla investors brace for another year of sales decline as Musk backlash grows

I'd like to call you out for overexaggerating on the stock 10x more expensive than it should be, but if anything you might have understated it.. The extreme amount this stock is overvalued is absolutely bonkers. I believe once it drops below $200 the whole house comes falling down.

Yeah, like a few days ago when sales numbers came out and the stock price jumped up because "we were expecting even worse numbers" ignoring that the stock is priced as if tesla is set for insane growth. Musk will just announce some more stupid vaporware to pump the stock back up if it gets too low for his liking, as he always does.

It's CyberCuck

I’m one-and-done with my Model Y. I got it shortly after the Y was released in part because I felt it was a decent EV for the price at the time, and in part because their Supercharger network is a nice option to have (and I’ve used it a fair amount).

Even if Musk wasn’t such a public buffoon and acted more like other auto industry CEO’s I wouldn’t buy another Tesla either. The vision-only system sucks not only in inclement weather, but bright sunny conditions as well. It’s also terrible at detecting rain for auto-wipers, oncoming cars for auto high beams, etc. The build quality of the cyber trucks is sketchy. They haven’t made any significant design changes in years, other than maybe replacing the steering wheel with a yoke (and I refuse to even ride in a car with one). They seem too proud of creating things like “fart mode” and holiday light/music shows instead of something actually useful like improved speech recognition & more robust voice commands (“tune radio to wxyz”???) and on and on…

The way I see it, when it’s time to replace my Model Y there will be plenty of other competitive EV choices from big automakers like Honda, Toyota, etc. as well as newer ones like Rivian. And now that the Tesla charger has become an SAE standard and non-Teslas can charge at Superchargers there’s even less incentive to stick with a Tesla EV.

Could always get back at that asshat by donating your Tesla to PBS or NPR (assuming of course you could afford it).

I wouldn't even then. There are so many better options now, in both design and build quality.

The only path to redemption for him is to confess his role in stealing the 2024 presidential election, help bring Trump and his cronies to justice, and serve his own prison sentences for all the crimes he and his DOGE lackeys committed against the American people.

You must be in USA, where Tesla is protected behind trade barriers. Because in the rest of the world, Tesla is not that competitive anymore.
If you want straight up competition VW group has better cars and a wider range (VW, Audi, Skoda, Cupra and Porsche). Renault also has some good options, and If you want even better than that, we have BMW and Mercedes. But they are also more expensive.
If you want good range but cheap, we have decent Chinese options like BYD, MG, NIO, Xpeng despite the 17% tariff.
But also Nissan and Toyota have good options, and Volvo and Polestar. And Mazda just announced their e6.
Even Stelantis seems to be making a slightly better effort now, With Opel, Peugeot, Citroen and FIAT.

None of the above cars will do phantom brakes, or cut your fingers off on the trunk. or lock you in if the car catches fire. Or have a 30% failure rate at the first mandatory safety check. Not even the Chinese are that bad!

Here (EU) there is absolutely no reason to buy a Tesler, except if you only heard 10 years ago they were good, and haven't had any updates since.

Oh BTW even USA had a decent competitor with the Ford Mustang. But I guess that's over now, and I'd really hate to have to buy an EV in USA now.

They can never fire Elon. Without him, there's no denying Tesla is just another auto maker. And if Tesla is just another auto maker, the valuation should be significantly lower than most others because at the end of they day, they ain't sellin enough cars.

Even if they do, unless Musk divests entirely, they can still get fucked. As long as hurting Tesla hurts Musk, they're just a means to an end.

Honestly even then