who did that?!
who did that?!
who did that?!
Weird how this equates the blame equally across all parties when it's pretty clear who needs to force who to not pollute
But the politicians that wants to do it don't get votes... People are weak and it makes democracy look the fool.
People keep bringing up people not voting while ignoring how gerrymandered our fuckin voting maps are
Ask yourself "where is the greatest leverage to solve this problem?". If you think the fastest way to turn the climate ship around is to convince 7ish billion individuals to go vegan, and ride bikes... Good luck!
Hmm. I'm not really banking on anything. I'm just surviving. Hoping for the best but expecting something less optimal. I'm not a doomer because believe too much in love. Not that it will save us, but that it's the only thing that truly makes life worth living. Whatever it is, we're all in it together.
We all ought to focus on that whole 7 billion thing...or wait, isn't it 8 now? Will be 9 soon.
Infinite population growth in a world of finite resources is not, and never will be, possible. Less people = more resources per person and higher quality of life.
It was my fault for not turning off the water when I brush my teeth. Sorry guys.
Maui would have been just fine if I didn't put my sandwich in baggie for lunch. So sorry everyone!
If only we had a society where I could actually buy from companies that were green or vote for politicians that gave a fuck about anything but money. We're fucked. I'm just glad I'll be dead before the world melts.
I am sick of the people being blamed for what has been propagandized into them. Companies have spent enormous amounts of money framing and controlling the narrative in public discourse. They have also spent enormous amounts of money bribing politicians and gaining influence in government. There is no sense blaming the people. The people must create change, but let's not act like it was their fault to begin with.
You are wrong. Yes, companies have spent billions to manipulate the public, but the actions of consumption and the willingness to tolerate even small change is on the people. We don't get to pretend that just because there are corporate involvement, that we are morally immune for it - especially when we still tolerate little change and take little action and little sacrifice even after we know it.
Plastic packaging has issues but climate change is not one of them. Shipping also isn't impactful at all. Most shipping emissions happen when the product moves to the store, not when it sails in a container ship.
Based on your post, the main evil of the corporations is manipulating the media, confusing people with things like abolishing plastic straws (which are very efficient at what they do).
Eating beef, owning a car and buying unnecessary stuff (for example those bottled drinks) are huge. They easily make up half of a persons emissions. An accurate measure is hard because of secondary effects like needing less road with fewer cars.
Word salad, my fav, I'm convinced.
the sun: it was me lol
Humans in general!
Lol everyone dies.
"Would you be upset if I told you we were dying? And every cure they gave us was a lie? Oh! They mean it when they say we're dead and doomed, and every single symptom brings us closer to the tomb, and who will take the credit for our swift impending fall? Because it's not my fault!
Would you be impressed if I said that the dead would help us counting every single moment that we waste our time? All the time we're spending vaccinating this disease, I just get dizzy when I think of all the ways we try to hide our maladies. We wine, we dine, and everything is fine, because it's not my fault"
"Would You Be Impressed?" by Streetlight Manifesto
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Above a set of three images is the title "CLIMATE CHANGE?" A photo of Broderick Stephen "Steve" Harvey Sr. with his hands raised, palms out and text above and below. The text above reads "Consumers:" and the text below reads '"Not my fault'". The second photo is a Capuchin monkey with its paws raised as if shrugging, and text above and below. The text above reads "Companies:" and the text below reads '"Not my fault"'. The last image is that of an otter half underwater with its fore-paws in the air as if at gunpoint, and text above and below. The text above reads "Politicians:" and the text below reads '"Not my fault"'
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that's how you create a messy debate, it needs to be provocative...
Maybe, just maybe, having the population go from 2.5 billion to 8 billion in like 70 years has something to do with it...
Oh look another westerner blaming population while the top 1% are responsible for double the emissions of the bottom 50%.
A growing population is what allowed the top 1% to get so absurdly rich and wasteful. Capitalism is dependent on growth.
I'm not blaming the poor for the population growth, I'm actually blaming the rich who encourage it for their benefit. All the talk in the west of 'we need to grow the population otherwise the system will collapse!! We need to get our people pumping out more kids or, if not, we need more immigration!' demonstrates this quite well. It's all about maintaining growth by any means necessary.
And no I'm not anti immigration even slightly, so please don't miss my entire point here by misunderstanding my position focusing on that.
There is some truth to it if you consider consumers = voters.
The important thing is that everyone has an excuse to carry on with their lives and not have to feel bad or do anything different
It’s more like “it’s my fault, but I don’t really want to deal with that rn”
¯(ツ)_/¯ Not my fault.
I think the most practical thing to do about it is to find a way to warn the societies after us of the danger, and then ride out what’s left of modern society. It’s proven it won’t change.
While it’s everyone’s fault, there is very little consumers can do to actually help.
For example:
So while I again agree everyone is at fault, I’d say the consumer has vastly less overall control than any other entity.
market won't regulate itself. that's established. EDIT: no way to "vote" with my wallet
Or apartments aren't mandated to have recycling. Or how oil corporations controlled anti-climate change propaganda, as well as Republicans. Or how corporations forced us to use oil to get to our jobs because there really was no public transportation alternative (particularly in America).
That makes this meme stupid, because consumers didn't have much control over big money buying everything or basically requiring the use of specific materials.
no, only those in power and making profits are to blame, not the people trapped in their wealth extraction system with no choice but to participate or die.
Voters are the problem. People don't vote for responsible and educated representatives.
when they're all serving capitalism, that won't change shit
I mean, I think it would be cool if I could go into a store and buy a flash drive that wasn't surrounded by a mountain of plastic and other resources. Or replace that with just about everything else. Although we're at another wealth inequality problem in general (I can go vegan tomorrow, move to a commune where everything was made of hemp, and it will still probably take 100 of my lifetimes to offset the carbon footprint of Elon or Taylor Swift over the next week, or maybe even just hour) I do often think about the very nature of our system now is that goods sold are often going to come with at a bare minimum equal parts waste to product.
Plastic and recycling have nothing to do with climate change though
Those were examples, but as pointed out they absolutely do have an effect on climate change.
However, I can provide a couple more direct examples if you like:
https://www.goingzerowaste.com/blog/which-is-better-for-the-environment-glass-or-plastic/
They do though. Manufacturing in general has a high carbon footprint, and the overwhelming majority of plastics the containers won't be recycled so the next packaged item will have the exact same carbon footprint as the first one.