as someone who's worked in food service (fuck this guy for "wagies") I don't care if papa domino loses 50 cents but I do care about losing my job bc my manager saw me give it away to some asshole who thinks he's above the workers that make his food.
my job isn't worth you saving 50 cents
“The cost of your entitlement is my job”
The problem here is that the relationship is alienated from the person actually being an asshole. Under wage labor the customer and the employee are both a part of the same class. They both work wage jobs and both have to deal with the frustrations of those jobs.
The one sense of "freedom" that the wage laborers feel is how they spend their money. They are alienated from the actual material impacts of their work. They are offered only a wage and given no incentive to form a relationship with their place of work beyond the paycheck.
So their entire expression of their labor is based upon their consumption and how they spend their earned wages. This is why we have a disconnect between two wage owners. They are both frustrated with the "laws" that govern their consumption and their labor.
The Domino's employee is frustrated because the customer is making his labor more difficult. He just wants to do the least amount of labor for his pay and ensure his employment is secure.
The Domino's customer is frustrated because the employee has no control over the means of production. He cannot verbally tell the "owner" of the business his frustrations.
They are both alienated from the beneficiary of the labor and the consumption. It frustrates both of them.
I would say it is one of the most "human" feelings we can have. It is one of the most conflicting parts of capitalism that contridicts human nature.
We want to share the products of our labor, see the beneficiaries of it, and gain praise for it. Our current economic systems are in direct contradiction of this.
Which is why you'll find people in this thread siding with both the employee and the customer. When the real asshole is the dude deciding garlic sauce should be 50 cents because it makes a line go up on a graph. The same asshole that hasn't set foot in a Domino's pizza in their entire life.
Edit: One assumption here is that both these people are wage laborers. The nonwage laborer often has a different reason for being an asshole to employees. I have never heard "wagie" as a negative thing until now. I kinda assumed it was almost a "solidarity" term and less so derogatory. But I assumed wrong.
But even so. The wage laborer can see themselves in a different position as a "consumer" and ignore their own class position when they spend their wage. It is their only time to "be the boss".
Whenever anyone says "wagie" I know they're a soft little suburban boy who has never worked a day in their life. I feel like being that much of an idiot is its own punishment
I agree with both sides of the argument, but lean more toward the dude who posted.
Companies make absolute fucking bank over "small insignificant" things like this.
Yes it's only 50¢ but how many people every day think to themselves "oh it's just 50 cents"
Then add that up over the whole year, for every location.
It quickly becomes much more than the "insignificant" 50¢.
And they know you are more likely to pay it and keep quiet than argue or simply not buy the item.
Sure it's "just 50 cents" for you, but for the company, by the end of the day it's more than most make in a year.
Note: actual dollar amounts company-wide for garlic cups is not something I happen to know, but based on how much I've seen them slinging cups into the boxes while I wait for my pizza, it's gotta be a lot.
I feel like these have been rising in price too.
Wait until anon figures out that there's a waaaaay higher markup on soda/pop than on condiments sold for a distinct and seperate cost, and that's how a lot of franchise restaurants make a large chunk of their profits.
As in, 1,125% percent markup.
As in, if you pay $2 for a soda, it actually cost the fast food place about 0.18 cents.
Not 18 cents, 0.18 cents.
...
Also, why would an employee care about ringing up a 50 cent condiment?
... Anon has clearly never worked fast food.
Absolutely chalk full of petty vindictive tyrant bosses that will prevent a promotion, chew you out, take that 50 cents out of your pay, and if you regularly do that, fire you, and possibly even report you to the police for some kind of petty crime that boils down to 'stealing from the company'.
Wagies are often pathetic because their bosses are often evil and cruel, and they can't afford to lose the job.
We threw out GALLONS of food everyday. If that cunt middle manager saw someone getting a to go plate before it was scooped into the trash shed write you up.
It must attract a specific kinda of person.
Yep.
Could feed a lot of homeless or low income people if you take all of that kind of food waste across a whole town or city.
But when non profits pop up to try to do the logistics of that, well now this garbage actually costs more than they can afford.
Petty Tyrants.
People who get off on power; the ability to control and harm and be superior to others is vital to their idea of well-being.
Yeah, it attracts people who feel powerless in their own life, so they're desperate for any amount of power they can hold over someone else.
Letting people take home food increases losses as your staff will make extra to take home so it “won’t get thrown out”. As loss is a hugely important metric in restaurants you don’t want to encourage this.
Weirdly a lot of overlap with people who work in HR
I learned about this years ago when I pulled into a McDonalds at midnight for coffee. Guy said they didn't have any made but would make a pot, and that me buying the cup of coffee paid for the whole large pot.
Not 100% sure, but the margins on coffee are probably nowhere near as high as on fountain drinks.
My guess would be around an order of magnitide less.
Still considerable, but the margin on soft drinks is absurd.
I think bottled water is the next step down from the absurd margins of fountain soda.
You only get about three larges out of a pot of McCafe drip but indeed the packets of coffee are the cheapest commodity Brazilian coffee they can find
Anything a store gives you "free" (as Anon says Papa John's garlic) has already been priced in.
I worked in a gift shop, we did "free" gift wrapping and it was beautiful. But the cost of boxes, rolls of ribbon and reams of tissue paper were factored into our markup throughout the store. We had really nice things, so a lot of our customers would come in for a gift and spend as much or more on items for themselves, which just needed to be bagged. Maybe bubble wrap for the trip home, but that was reused from things shipped to us. So we made extra profit, while also giving them and their friends ideas for their next gift. Wealthy people, so they didn't care.
Yeah, this is how businesses work. They provide what you are looking for at that moment. But to get you to come back, they “provide” other items and services for free to get that future business. This is a way businesses can be “long term” greedy. They’ll still make a profit because those additional costs are in the price of your original purchase.
However, you aren’t guaranteed that future business. So, businesses have moved to “short term” greedy by charging for everything else while keeping the original purchase price “competitive” or just as pricey.
Or you pursue weirder spaces to get profit ie I had a boss who hated her cousin but flew to India for his wedding because the bride’s brother ran a paper factory. She came back having spent $10k on gift wrap and bags that would have cost $100k+ here. We sold bags for $7 that cost $0.13. Our highest profit item in awine shop was a paper bag. We of course would give these out for “free” when we needed to.
as an extreme wagie i would destroy this man with my fart. he would not even eat the pizza
I’m just hearing the term “wagies” for the first time, and I don’t like it. Workers who deal with obnoxious customers like Anon deserve common courtesy, not a demeaning nickname.
Imagine being an unemployed loser referring to workers as "wagies".
I guess it’s like racism and other forms of bigotry. Creating a reason to look down on others (even when, deep down, you know it’s bullshit) helps you feel less awful about your own pathetic self.
Huh, found the wagie.
I'm just being a dick cause it's 4chan.
it's a term used by privileged children raised like veal, you can safely discard the opinions of anyone saying it
raised like veal
This is wonderful
I'm with the employee on this one. Dude's just doing his job, it's not their fault if the policy is sucky
Yeah if he gets caught giving them out for free, he might get fired and his perhaps only source of income might be gone. Nobody will risk that unless they are dumb.
I've stopped adding sauce to my McDonald's and KFC orders after my friend showed me a bottled sauce brand that is literally made by the same manufacturer, tastes the same and can be bought in any supermarket in Ukraine for much lower price per serving.
Surely if you want to save up on sauce, you can do some research and find the brand that fits the taste.
and seriously, you can do better, sauces tend to keep for a while, especially the quality youd get there, and YOU CAN MAKE BETTER OMG. a five dollar (fuck) bottle and two dollars of ingredients makes a years worth of most of these kinds of sauces in bulk.
Mind sharing the brand?
I'm with the customer on this. The responder is singer sort of shill who probably is responsible for decisions at their company that nickle and dime customers with hidden fees.
Fuck those deceitful bloodsuckers.
Except the manager is going to notice the loss over the month and fire the worker for "stealing".
The worker is just trying to survive. The owner needs to be harassed.
Okay, Karen.
Tell me you've never worked a shitty "essential employee" job without telling me you've never had the kind of megalomaniac managers that these jobs attract.
Since I posted this I guess I'll throw in my two cents...
As a customer I kind of agree with Anon in that it's just a sauce cup, and hardly worth ringing up a whole separate transaction for
As someone who has worked for a giant souless corporation I kind of agree with the employee in that someone somewhere is keeping track of those sauce cups. They put in an allowance for what they call "shrinkage", but if enough sauce cups go unaccounted for someone from corporate will happily fire everyone in the store and replace them within 24 hours.
I think real point I'm want to get across here though is that Domino's sucks. Their pizza is gross and it gives you heartburn almost immediately, and their garlic sauce tastes like shit.
Support your local pizzaria 👍
Dominoes = liquid shit central
Use to work at a bistro where they didn't keep track of that stuff as it was a retirement home and management was fucked during covid.
Gave away soooooo much shit. They had a 3 side rule with a meal and pretty much anything was a side. 3 sodas? Go for it. 6 cookies why not? Take all 8 of our French silk pies that's your meal for today and tomorrow. fuck it.
Don't forget that many foods have been designed to be too dry without the premium sauce. A local burger bar by me charges $2 for mustard on a burger that would otherwise be completely dry.
That seems like sacrilege. I don't think I would ever go somewhere that charges extra for mustard on a burger
If i got to a burger place that doesn't have condiments on the table I'm out of there.
Garlic sauce is kinda premium, but asking you to pay an extra 50¢ seems petty. But $2 for mustard is fucking insane.
damn, i live close to a place with one of the best burgers i've ever eaten, and as long as you're in the restaurant, they give you as much of their homemade mayonaise as you want (and it's probably the best mayo i've eaten)
The argument over who is right, the consumer or the employee, is exactly what the companies want. If charging for every small thing was a big deal they'd see it in the totals as people stopped coming and pass the cost on some other way to provide "free" stuff. But people just gripe about it and come back, and keep blaming the stupid worker again because it's "clearly" their fault. And the company takes their money happily.
Hmm in UK all domino’s come with a small garlic sauce that is on the box in a little hole.
That's the sample to get you hooked and coming back for more at 50p a pop, sucker.
The Big Dip is legendary like.
Hmm... isn't the credit card transaction fee usually about $3?
I have never once paid a fee for using a card to buy pizza. Is that a thing where you live?
No, stores pay the fee to the provider (MasterCard/Visa/American Express/etc) for processing the transaction. This is why you see those little signs that say "minimum credit card purchase $5" or w/e in smaller shops, because if the transaction is too small they lose money on it.
You might actually inflict $2.50 in losses on the location for processing a single transaction for a $0.50 sauce cup.
A rational person might assume they mean the fee credit card companies charge the vendor, meaning paying for a low cost item on credit ends up costing the vendor.
If not, local pizza places (not dominos) are often still cash heavy businesses and some will require a min order or a small (3% ish) fee for credit to offset the fee they pay.
