Tor Project and Mullvad release Mullvad Browser, "Tor Browser without the Tor Network" a privacy browser for VPN users

So you can give some Swedish company access to all your web traffic. Great idea if you hate privacy. At least Tor can get some money this way.

Also, isn't Tor still funded by the US govt? I feel like of you wanted a honeypot, there is no better option than Tor which is already under your wing.
The reality is that there is NO completely anonymous network or proxy that can be 100% trusted. None. Because you have zero ways of independently verifying any of them. You're better off, especially if you're political dissident, using a network that might be/probably under surveillance from a country that aligns most with your ideology (Chinese networks if you're a communist trying to push for communism in the West, for example). It's a shame for us that it's actually really hard to get access to a Chinese run VPN in the West. Don't use a US-developed privacy network if you know the US is not going to like what you send on it is what I'm saying.
- I think you are making more of a political and philosophical argument than a technical one. The project for tor browser and associated technologies is a 501c3 nonprofit. It's technology is open source and can be independently reviewed by third parties. Control of the network and it's technology is distributed and is not controlled by any single government or entity. It's not a perfect solution but it's better in certain contexts than other options. It just depends on your use case but the torproject is not doing anything "wrong" they are not a shill for a particular government.
Swedish government*
All EU countries have surveillance laws pretty similar to the US yet no one seems to think it's a problem.
@nutomic @cypherpunks Who exactly do trust then comrade? I mean Swedish ISP Bahnhof has a very good reputation when it comes to end user privacy. They even hosted Julian Assanges Wikileaks server... But I mean just look at all the orwellian laws coming from Australia, America, England and the EU where do we go from here bro?? Chat Control, Investigatory powers act bill, Ass Access bill, Restrict Act bill, Chat control... D: World governments are making it hard to have any privacy anymore!
- @Rickster @nutomic @cypherpunks As harder some pathetic governments are doing it to have some privacy and stop cancel culture, as faster we evolve towards alternative communication tools.
  They can control even the whole internet. We will ditch this service and use mesh networks. Without us paying for the internet, the service will become obsolete.
If not this browser, which one should we use if we want privacy?
- Tor browser? Librewolf? Ungoogled Chromium?
Is the browser not open source? And hence a binary could be built for it to test and verify the degree of privacy to it?
- A VPN operator can intercept all the traffic by design. TOR avoids that by going over multiple hops, but this browser doesnt use TOR.

I'll stick with LibreWolf, thanks

I just stumbled upon that, too, and am wondering how this compares to Librewolf (+VPN) ...

I'm wondering the same thing. Aside from encouraging people to use the default settings to make each user's browser/session harder to properly fingerprint, I'm really curious what privacy benefits this new browser provides compared to alternatives like Librewolf, hardened Firefox, etc.
- Looks like Mullvad has this regarding the changes being made in their browser: https://mullvad.net/nl/browser/hard-facts
- From what I've heard in the past, Mozilla is doing a good job upstreaming work from the Tor Browser devs and putting it behind an about:config value, if they don't use it in Firefox. So, assuming your hardened Firefox uses the right config values and browser extensions, there should be relatively few differences...

I cant get user scripts to work with it.

IINM, you shouldn't that because it would defeat the purpose of this browser, which is to maintain the same fingerprint for everybody.
- that's what I figured, just wish it said something about it

I would need to do some testing but a potential flaw I can already think of is that your browser will look fairly unique to finger printers. So for instance you are already running a variant of firefox which only has about 3% of the market share. Now you are running a variant of firefox that has a really unique settings. So instead of being 1 in crowd of hundreds of thousands or millions you will be 1 out of few thousand maybe or possibly just hundreds if adoption is slow enough. Then add browsing habits to that you could potentially narrow the person down to a few dozen or even a dozen people quick. You would likely be better off using a more popular browser with just a VPN. However I don't care what browser you use you still need to be careful if you want to stay private.