European alternatives to non-European apps (2.0)
European alternatives to non-European apps (2.0)
Version 2 of the European app alternatives. Feel free to share it :)
I recently discovered Monocles.eu, they are a privacy respecting email, chat (Matrix?), drive (Nextcloud?), social (Mastodon) and translator platform. I'm still forming my opinion, but they look good. In France, there's also the Chatons who propose local alternative hosting of many common services, such as Nextcloud, Mastodon, Matrix, Mattermost, VaultWarden, etc.
It's pretty telling that, as a European, I've literally not heard of any of those European alternatives.
Some of these aren't European so I wouldn't feel too bad. PixelFed is American, for example.
I thought Canadian?
It tells more about you. Deezer, Soundcloud, DeepL and Bolt are pretty popular globally.
That doesn't mean that they are subfunctional though.
Last time I checked ecosia gets it's search queries from Bing, just a heads up. Other than that I'd say it's really solid.
There is Mojeek that is based in UK and have an own search index and web crawler. I wouldn't recommend it. Mojeek.com
Just wait for this https://blog.ecosia.org/eusp/
Qwant and Swisscows are in the same basket too.
Peertube has this fediverse problem. You google it, go to the webpage and instead of getting a list of promoted videos, you get an explanation of what it is and a manual on how to actually join, starting with „select a pot“. You then get to search the list of pots that all have like 10 viewers and 5gb upload limit. I stopped at this point.
That being said, i really would like an European youtube alternative, but not off the „provide your own hardware“ kind.
Exactly my problem why I'm not really getting into Lemmy either, same with mastodon. The whole decentralization standing in the middle of it all is just annoying.
Also yeah, Peertube did not even look like a competitor at all. Same with Threema with it costing 6 euros to use
Joinpeertube.org doesn’t have the best onboarding, but take a look at the pinned post at !peertube@lemmy.wtf for a few good servers to choose from.
Thank you
Edit: this is much more helpful than the website
Im European and the EU can go fuck themselves.
Plenty others to choose from.Examples?
This is missing Spotify and TomTom unless I am missing something
Thanks for the feedback. It is not supposed to be a complete list. It's a start. You can find more alternatives in our database: https://buy-european.net/
One more request then! If appreciate it is your not put text everywhere without additional information. For example the AI filler on the browser page is just noise. Is rather only have the list than contract filters:
""" There are several compelling reasons to opt for European web browsers. These browsers not only prioritize user privacy and data protection but also foster innovation and support local technology ecosystems. """
Thanks for the project by the way!
Organic Maps ftw.
Isn't mapy.cz just an OSM wrapper, but proprietary?
Where's Signal (or molly if you need foss)? Signal is an non-profit organisation, so I'd say it can hardly be branded 'from' anywhere unless you're talking about servers location but then...
Signal is centralised, and as such the location of the service operator matters a lot.
Thanks for the suggestions!
I'd suggest adding waze on there and tomtom amigo as an alternative Also infomaniak as an email alternative You're missing Google Drive -> Filen or Infomaniak
Missing out the big one here - Spotify is also European fyi.
Why don't we include nestle then?
Just because it is European, doesn't mean the company is worth a shit dripping down a wall.
Spotify is a shit company. Pays artists by far the lowest in the industry (especially if you take into account their scummy minimums, catches, and terms for smaller musicians), injects shitty AI songs into Spotify-made playlists so they won't have to pay the artists the little they do, gives "donations" to fascists, and heavily invests in fucking war companies including partnering one who is essentially trying to make "the dark night" tracking machine to pair with AI assassination drones.
(Also side note, have you noticed all of these scummy surveillance companies making their names into very well-known references to pop culture so that all news stories on them are essentially lost to the pop culture void when searching for them? Palantir, helsing, etc...)
I told OP this in previous post; Spotify gave money to Trumps' inauguration. That's why it was removed.
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There is only one clear winner for me.
That’s a fair point.
but also platforms right wingers that had an impact on influencing our election. i get i shouldn't be the one guiding boycotts of my own nation's products, i'm just saying spotify has been antihelpful when it comes to the creation of this situation
Yeah I can totally understand that especially in relation to Rogan etc.
As a musician, I don't like SoundCloud. The free upload limit is way too small, their compression is not great and every time you do anything they try to sell you one of their subscriptions, which also cost way too much imo.
If other musicians didn't use it as much I would have already thrown it out long ago.
Unfortunately, the PeerTube community is inactive and small. There are basically no interesting videos at all.
That’s not true. Check out the pinned post at !peertube@lemmy.wtf for a list of content creators. Also check out the home page of PeerTube.wtf that also has a list of content creators.
!peertube@lemmy.wtf is quite active and tries to highlight interesting content.
Sorry but 2 posts in the last week can hardly be considered quite active.
Thanks, I will try it out.
Yep, as it doesn't have a monetization incentive it will be never that appealing. There should be a way for authors to earn money.
It’s not about monetisation. It’s about audience. Who is going to bother to host an instance and post to a platform where the most popular videos only get 100 views?
Here Wego is the worst maps service I've ever had the displeasure of using. Amazon used to use it for deliveries (maybe they still do), and it took almost a year to get it to recognise that my house was not 8 miles away on a completely different road. It messed up the Amazon routes as the route it picked was all in that same area, except my house, that was 8 miles away.
Google moves my address too. And it's not even a new address, just a "new" building. Apple thinks it's a building site (it was built in 2020!). The only map that recognises the address properly is Here Wego.
Is there a European Android-Alternative?
I've given up on an android alternative, or Google free android due to not wanting to lose banking apps
Android is open source. Most companies make their own versions of android that include google services and their own apps, theming
You can get a version of android without google services or emulated google services. This will make a lot of apps on the google play store not work, but its better for privacy. These are phone-specific so you may not find a version available/supported for the phone you are using. Examples are graphene os(exclusive to pixel phones), lineageos and /e/os
You can also install linux on your phone, but i dont know much about this
SailfishOS
/e/os
How would I utilise these OS on an android phone please?
Protonmail is missing.
Due to negative feedback in version 1.0 I removed it from the infographic. You can still find it in the database itself.
The whole seznam ecosystem is an alternative to Google, unfortunately it's Czech only
Any alternative to Trello one of you can recommend?