The open-source laptop maker Framework now has a gaming Desktop PC as well

Isn't the point of desktops to already be modular?

The funny thing about this new framework is that it isnt
- Jup, soldered in RAM. They're less modular than most laptops
- Yeah finally watched the review. Weird, but also, this is actually a really exciting chip.
  If you do any kind of work with ml, this might just about be your only option for breaking 16gb vram, which is the floor for many models. Very few of us ever even get to experiment with something above 40. With these, you could take it to 128, and it seems, at a pretty price competitive standpoint.
  I'm looking at it pretty seriously, because I was really excited about these chips, but almost completely disinterested in them as far as a laptop chip. But for a desktop chip? I mean if its at 128gb vram, the fuck else can I ask for?
  I'm also super interested in that 2:1. For mobile computing thats pretty much my go-to these days, is a thin and light 2:1 that I just use to get access to where-ever my compute is actually happening.
- Right. Of all the products the company known for repairability and upgradability could have developed, they went into a class of products that didn't need it and removed it.
  In their defense though, this was a product class that was missing. If you're an idiot and care at all about AI, this will be an excellent product for that with the 256GBPS RAM bandwidth at half the price of an Apple product.
  So maybe they're like Lambo and Porsche who sell giant SUVs to fund the development of their sports cars.
  No one should buy this but as long as they keep selling repairable laptops, it's ok I guess.
- Its also not a gaming device, as it doesnt have a dedicated gpu. It only has an APU and some AI core bullshit. Its worthless e waste and not really fit for this community imo.
Yeah I am a huge Framework fan (have one of their laptops and love it) but I at first had a hard time figuring out who this was for. Some other people in this thread have had some good comments about it, but for me personally this is completely useless.
- As one of the people with a different viewpoint that is a completely fair and sensible take.
- It's for me. I guess since I pre-ordered. Why because I want to mess with llms in it and the 96 gigs of vram seem nice.

Looking at the others in the ultra-SFFPC market segment they're targeting (e.g. Mac Mini, Intel NUC, Nvidia DIGITS) this is a solid first outing.

It's a standard ITX mainboard that happens to have soldered ram. It will fit in any ITX-compatible case and even has dedicated PCI-e slot in case you do use a case with space for a PCI-e device like an SFP+ card.

On the upside, the unified ram means the GPU can use it, and so you could run 70b-size models on it.

On the upside, the unified ram means the GPU can use it, and so you could run 70b-size models on it.
The version with 128GB ram is $1999.
- Nvidia's equivalent (DIGITS) is $2,999.

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I bought a Lenovo thinkpad x1 carbon from a business closeout dealer or whatever for $150 is the greatest computer purchase I have ever made. It's running Linux now, and I upgraded it with a 2tb ssd, and its tiny and fast, 16gb ram, hd display and fantastic keyboard.

I love the idea of the framework and they seem awesome, but when such a cheap option exists it is hard to justify to insane price tag. Desktop will only be worse I would imagine.

I have a x1 carbon gen 9. Be very careful with the USB-C ports. I leave mine on my desk and my hub kept cutting in and out while using it and its gotten worse over time. I've seen others with similar issues and it seems like the fix is to solder on a new port. Its a work laptop so I just deal with it.