Ask Lemmy @lemmy.world Tedesche @lemmy.world 1d ago

Is there an instance for Democratic Socialists rather than Communists?

I fled Reddit due to the authoritarian mod craziness, but Lemmy.world seems infested with too much Communist craziness. I'm leftist, but communism is idiocy. Is there an instance that leans more democratic socialist but refrains from going off the deep end?

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i'd like to hear your take on "communism is idiocy".
.world is the most liberal place on the lemmy lmao. If they are too left for you idk what to tell you
“Authoritarian mod craziness”? What communities were you hanging in where this was such a widespread problem?

Also .world is definitely not overwhelmingly communist. You need to start subscribing/blocking just like you probably did on Reddit. There’s no underlying algorithm making decisions for you here. You have full control of what you see. If you don’t like what you see, you can fix it!
- TBF, I got banned from Reddit after RvW for saying riot police should quit their jobs en masse. Reddit likes to quench any kind of dissent
  
  I hate the shithole site and Spez but I’m struggling to believe that’s all there is to the story
lemmy.world

is too communist for you?!?!?

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- Spamming emojis just makes you look ridiculous and like your opinions don't matter
  
  Replying uselessly to comments you don’t like just to defend a censorship-happy neoliberal hivemind hotbed makes you look like a petty, bored, very gullible person.
I'm surprised you see a ton of that on lemmy.world, always found that instance rather tame and moderate, at least by lemmy standards. Certainly compared to Hexbear, ml and Lemmygrad. Are you sure those weren't federated posts from those instances? Anyway, lemm.ee is pretty neutral, lemmy.dbzer0.com leans more anarchist. But you could also just stay on .world and subscribe to communities that align with your views on whatever instance. Unless you have an issue with the moderation on .world specifically, it doesn't really matter.
I’m leftist, but

classic lol

.world is about as anticommunist as you can expect, if that's not enough for you maybe you could relocate to one of the Nazi servers
- says the .ml person commenting on .world. it does not matter what any particular places people is like unless they defederate from each other. @Tedesche@lemmy.world is talking about his experience and is likely not seperating out where users come from. in addition anyone can make a user on any open instance. I actually would like to see more closed instances that are about a particular local groups like sci fi conventions or makerspaces and such.
As someone similar to you, blocking and stuff seems the right approach vs. trying to find a specific instance.
- Bingo. Making a new account somewhere else likely won't help. The only way it would is if all the content OP objects to comes from a single instance and they find another instances that's defederated frrom that source instance.
  
  @IMALlama@lemmy.world
  
  @Tedesche@lemmy.world @andyburke@fedia.io
  
  adding my voice to the mix. I have always advocated blocking. My experience with mmo chat taught me that a cesspool can turn into a pretty nice place with some blocking. My basic rule is subscribe to what I like and block what I don't and everything else im indifferent to. don't like sports then block those communities. like comics and subscribe to those. indifferent to animal pictures then let it lie and you will see them when you browse all.
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lemmy.dbzer0.com is anarchist and stongly hates all states, both USA and the Russia, China types.

lemmy world is neoliberal, I mean, tankies do post there, but the moderation is mostly neoliberal and are anti-violence absolutists, even if its directed towards nazis

lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, and hexbear.net (now chapo.chat) are tankies, avoid those

Pretty much everyone else on lemmy are anti-authoritarian and pro- socialist policies, some are social democrats, others are democratic socialists, some are anarchists.

If you don't like tankies:

lemmy.dbzer0.com (we have !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 😉)

sh.itjust.works

lemmy.ca

sopuli.xyz

piracy community is blocked on lemmy.world btw, so you might as well joine us, or any of my recommended ones.

TLDR: lemmy.world is not "communist", just just a few tankies that love to post thinnly veiled authoritarianism.

Edit: Also, you are probably seeing federated posts from lemmy.ml, I block most of those communities except like a few non-political ones like c/privacy
- Also Blåhaj. Seems to be pretty anarchist from what I've seen, and I'd say Blåhaj is perfect if you're queer, especially trans.
Let's talk about this in a little more detail.

What do you consider going off the deep end? What do you consider leftist? Which ideas do you consider idiocy? What is your idea of a society worth living in?

I personally am open to any ideas that exclude discrimination of identity. For me the tolerance paradoxon applies.

I'm happy to hear your thoughts.
- I'm also looking for a place without edgy or crazy people.
  
  For me its:
  
  Democratic: yes
  
  Socialism/social net/sharing/helping: yes
  
  Dictatorial: no
  
  Tankie: no
  
  Undemocratic: no
  
  China or CCCP/URSS worship: no
  
  Soviet whitewashing: no
  
  That's about it.
  
  Edit: I was looking for a community not an instance (I have my own but I still uses .world as I had some trouble, time to migrate back home I guess :-) ) but thanks for all helpful comments!
  
  Block the Lemmy.ml instance and there goes most of those people.
  
  I think thats valid. You don't have to accept or look at everything.
  
  Do you mind sharing what your ideal society looks like? I think a lot of folks share common ideas but have vastly different labels for them.
  
  I'll go ahead:
  
  I personally want to work. It can be fun. I want to do things I'm actually good at. I want to be able to afford food and housing. I want to know that i wont starve if I become sick or disabled. I want to be able to survive when I'm too old to work regularly. I want my family to be safe no matter what.
  
  I think those are pretty understandable goals. I want to live in a world where this applies to as many people as possible.
  
  many instances, like mine, are 'generic on-ramps'. their 'main' purpose is to provide unfettered access to all other instances.
  
  in this way you curate your own feeds by subscribing to what you want.
  
  lemmy.dbzer0.com - anarchist, hates all states, both USA and Russia/China types
  
  Other non-tankie options are
  
  sh.itjust.works - shhhh... 🤫 it... just works... 😉
  
  lemmy.ca - Canadian 🇨🇦
  
  sopuli.xyz - Run by a Finn 🇫🇮
  
  That’s .ml
You should use Hexbear. There aren't any communists there. Just posers who think communism means supporting dictatorships.
i was as naive as OP back in the day, it's alright bro you'll get there
If the de facto gatekeepers of the genocidal liberal death cult status quo on the fediverse aren’t liberal enough for you, I think you’d feel right at home at https://shitlib.cuck/
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.world is hardly the home of the tankie, what you see might be posts from lemmy.ml

There are two other places known as lemmygrad and hexbear that are outright communist/tankie that you'll see occasionally brigade when someone posts anything positive about the USA.

This and most others are pretty sane. One that comes to mind for what you're asking particularly might be https://slrpnk.net/signup who seem kind of left but not Stalin left.

Otherwise there's the join Lemmy link at the bottom of any given instance to look through.
- seconding solarpunk, it’s a beautiful movement in general
Try just joining a local domain which is ostensibly apolitical, then find communities that meet your needs
It's called "Bluesky" lol

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