Linus responds to Hellwig - "the pull request you objected to DID NOT TOUCH THE DMA LAYER AT ALL... if you as a maintainer feel that you control who or what can use your code, YOU ARE WRONG."
Linus responds to Hellwig - "the pull request you objected to DID NOT TOUCH THE DMA LAYER AT ALL... if you as a maintainer feel that you control who or what can use your code, YOU ARE WRONG."
Hellwig is the maintainer of the DMA subsystem. Hellwig previously blocked rust bindings for DMA code, which in part resulted in Hector Martin from stepping down as a kernel maintainer and eventually Asahi Linux as a whole.
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Linux is going to implode because they have zero level-headed people involved.
They don't have to be level-headed, they just need to be able to work through issues. Which is happening.
It's better for people who work together to say what's on their mind while having respect for each other, than smiling nicely and thinking badly of each other.
You and I must be reading vastly different emails, then, because this whole thing happened because they weren't working through the issues.
Yes, but they (the maintainers) are working through the issue now.
Now that people have permanently abandoned their projects... Wonderful leadership!
Yes, now, months later, when two major developers have left and the dirty laundry is all over the media.
They don't have to be level-headed, they just need to be able to work through issues. Which is happening.
You think the founder of the project abandoning everything he's built is "working through the issues"?
It's better for people who work together to say what's on their mind while having respect for each other, than smiling nicely and thinking badly of each other.
You can say what's on your mind without being disrespectful.
I'm not sure what you think "disrespectful" means. Morning Linus wrote is "disrespectful", in fact, he mentioned that he respected the maintainers technical abilities. Voicing your opinion and calling out someone when they are wrong isn't disrespectful.
God I'd hate to work with you if you see nothing wrong with this behavior...
You're entitled to think that, but most people speak well of me everywhere I've worked. Probably the negative thing is that I joke too much. But that's probably awful for you to deal with.
Edit: I've actually brought down the fire on someone who was verbally abusing others, but even then I took the diplomatic approach because I know that person was severely sleep deprived from having a newborn. What I actually did is advocate for them to have a paid week off of work. They were a completely different person afterwards.
Edit: somehow the word "newborn" posted as just "n"
Things are better when people are able to speak openly about issues and get shit done.
The meetings I hate the most are with people who'll spin everything with hollow platitudes.
There exists a middleground. You can speak openly without platitudes and without being disrespectful.
From what I have read, just a decade or so back the LKML was far more toxic (though now the times have also changed).