President Donald Trump revealed on Thursday at the National Prayer Breakfast an executive order instructing Attorney General Pam Bondi to seek out and prosecute "anti-Christian bias.""To confront such weaponization and religious persecution, today I'm signing an executive order to make our Attorney ...
Jesus is pretty cool. You show me a christian who follows jesus' teachings, and I'll have mad respect. You give me some dipshit doing the most anti-christlike shit imaginable, but with crosses all around, and I'll make fun of him forever. Just a way of un-tarnishing the brand.
I have a family member who told me last year that they believe Christians are the most persecuted group in the USA, even more so than gay people.
In truth it was very challenging to stay calm in the face of someone saying something so blatantly biased and false. Packaged as an opinion, of course, but presented as the truth.
I asked questions and challenged some of the statements being made, but I know for a fact that the only thing I accomplished is that she's unlikely to make that particular statement in front of me again. No minds were changed that day. It's just sad.
As someone who actually IS persecuted in this country for things I cannot change about myself, I really don't get why someone would want to live under the delusion that they are being persecuted when they otherwise aren't. It's not fun and there's no benefit to being persecuted.
They want to be David vs Goliath. Being the ones persecuted means that they can go on the offensive without feeling bad about it. It means whatever they do is justified as being a means of survival. It gives them an excuse.
Exactly, the Bible is written for the underdog. Constantly referencing persecution for the faith, which is non-existent in the USA, so they try to redefine what they see as micro aggressions as full on persecution. They simply want to be angry, righteous anger for Christ.
I have a family member who told me last year that they believe Christians are the most persecuted group in the USA, even more so than gay people.
I asked questions and challenged some of the statements being made
I imagine some of those questions included:
How many christians in the USA were killed in the last 20 years only because they were christian?
When was the last time a gathering of christians in a public library doing things unrelated to being christian forced to cease and desist?
Is it common in society for a young adult living with parents to profess their love for christ and be thrown out of their homes and essentially abandoned by the family?
Is there a history in this country to regularly arrest and prosecute christians for gathering or holding ceremonies like communion?
edit: A couple more additions.
Has marriage between two christians been illegal for nearly the entirety of the existence of the USA?
Are there camps that some misguided parents send their children to to be "deprogrammed" from being christian?
It's because their religion claims that whoever has the worst life on Earth will have the best life in Heaven, so they're constantly seeking out ways to reaffirm that they have it "so hard".
They associate the negativity of others towards them with godliness.
In truth it was very challenging to stay calm in the face of someone saying something so blatantly biased and false.
Collectively, we really need to quit doing that. Failing to call out hateful bullshit because of some weird adherence to 'civility' is part of what got us to this point in the first place.
"I mean, there is no mention of the character of Jesus or their precious favorite book in the Constitution, and it's only the very First Amendment and all....and founders like Jefferson were QUITE CLEAR about their skepticism of xtianity's claims, but if you are True Originalists like we are, you'd understand how this is supposed to be a xtian nation!"
You can order metal statues of Baphomet on Etsy. Mine helps me feel a little better when I read shitty stuff like this. He watches over me from the top of my bookshelf.
There's a group of people that go around in white sheets with pointy hats and they burn crosses, often on other peoples property. That seems pretty anti-christian to me and should be the first to be investigated.
Everything about the GOP as very anti-christian. Jesus was a bleeding heart socialist by today's standards. I'm not sure what books these fools have been reading that says otherwise.
The latest meme/talking point working its way through all the newer, e-celeb type american christian pastors, the ones that are extreme but not quite as bonkers as the qanon, I-am-a-prophet types...
they don't read. their megachurch pastors tell them what the bible says about who to hate. they draw all their rhetoric from Leviticus and Numbers to justify their gross misinterpretation of Revelations. they ignore the gospels entirely. here are the things you need to know when dealing with christofascist propaganda
the old testament comes from the living documents of the jewish faith maintaining the history of their ancestors and people. the jewish faith is largely an ongoing conversation about what it means to inherit this story and how to resist oppression by enacting boycotts, strikes, and maintaining the cultural heritage of foods. no one thinks everything in it is right and good except for some folks who worship orthodox hegemony beyond all else
the teachings of jesus are primarily about how orthodox hegemony is bad and that the true value of ethics and morality is to help others and strengthen communities where you are
the book of revelations is early christians' attempt to document the events of a genocide enacted by an authoritarian who co-opted the trappings of religion. it's a warning against the types of coagulation of power being enacted by donald trump literally right now. they are the followers of the antichrist they accuse woke folk of being. woke folk are who get raptured into the eternal song of historical memory by remaining true to the teachings that kindness and grace is more important than orthodoxy. the book is all florid and weird because the roman censors didn't recognize it for what it was, so it was able to survive.
And by "anti-xtian bias" he means, not properly privileging xtianity.
That's what these assholes complaining about xtian "persecution" ALWAYS mean. They hate to be ignored, too. Being told that their rules are FOR THEM and not anyone else in their book club, it absolutely infuriates them.
X was used by early Christians in place of Christ. It is the first letter of Christ in Greek, and was used as a discreet way to indicate that someone is a Christian - back when Christians were ACTUALLY persecuted.
You don’t understand yet. The words are a cover for their real intentions which are to go after the enemies of Christianity under the guise of investigating hate crimes.
Doesn't this still require specific existing laws (as in actual statutes) to charge someone with violating? Or can they just charge and convict on arbitrary things they don't like, now?
The thing with Trump is, he doesn't care. He will do whatever he can until he's told he can't. So, until this gets challenged and makes its way through the courts, he will do it. So much of our system is built on "norms" that he can get away with doing things that seem like they shouldn't be allowed. Until democrats start doing the same, they'll keep losing for failing to do what the people want.
I mean he can sign it, it’s going literally nowhere. But if this ain’t proof that there’s a genuine desire to install a theocracy in the US, then I don’t know what will convince anyone.
The fact that a President even suggests this is a clear tell that some want the US being Iran but with Jesus.
Six in 10 U.S. adults said the founders intended America to be a Christian nation, according to a 2022 Pew Research Center survey. About 45% said the U.S. should be a Christian nation. Four in five white evangelical Protestants agreed with each assertion.
Which is just flat wrong, of course, and doesn't really need any debate: it just was not founded as a xtian nation, and that was quite intentional. But that's the level of stupidity we are dealing with.
And something like 45% of the country WANT this country to be a xtian nation, which is also depressing.
I mean he can sign it, it’s going literally nowhere.
This is incorrect. He can sign it, and Bondi will start bringing these cases to court. One would think that it would immediately stop there as the first judge she argues in front of dismisses the case for being blatantly unconstitutional and having her brought up on sanctions for multiple blatant violations of the defendant's constitutional rights.
But in this court system? I wouldn't be so sure. At the very least, I expect at least some people to get caught up in this dragnet and have their lives upended for years until the Supreme Court finally stops dragging their feet. But given this administration, this Supreme Court, and the number of MAGA judges that Trump can forum shop through, there is a non-zero chance this actually succeeds.
It wouldn't be the first time this administration and SCOTUS hand-waves away constitutional protections.
Keep in mind that they also broke into the Treasury system and own the paychecks of every federal employee. If that's not leverage, I don't know what is
Oh, that's immediate. That's what they always mean by "anti-xtian bias" - not privileging their bullshit rules that their little book club has (and that has zero relevance in a secular nation like the United States).
Telling them to go pound sand is incredibly hurtful to people that want to bring back witch trials.
It's about time. Those poor christians have always been marginalized in the USA, just like white men who own property. And billionaires. And the 1% in general. When will someone finally think of them?
If you can't read sarcasm in the above, you're too illiterate to be on the internet. Get off the internet.
The xtianists think freedom of religion means choosing from one of hundreds of various xtian sects. They think freedom FROM religion does not exist in Jesusland.
They'll do to freedom FROM religion (which the first amendment requires) what they did to the right of privacy in Roe...
Fuck Pam Bondi and fuck fascist POS orange idiot! But above all fuck christians...all POS religions for that matter...religion poisons everything! Just imagine how much better off the world would be without the religious BS! What is brown nosing pam going to do with anti christian bias? Punish me for a hate crime? Thought crime? Fuck all religious ideology!