Ziz was originally radicalised by the sex abuse and abusers around CFAR
deleted comments from the thread https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/96N8BT9tJvybLbn5z/we-run-the-center-for-applied-rationality-ama
College Hill is very good and on top of this shit
this is a nice writeup of the story of Ziz
extremely normal thing and definitely not cult shit (ziz):
Something I don’t think I ended up writing, was a random conversation on what it meant to be good and a Sith. In which I said, something like, well, I’m doing whatever I want, no matter what, which in my case is good things.
also seems weird that vassar went from failed let-me-google-scholar-that-for-you fake medical startup to a niche rat cult leader. can't any single one of these people get a normal job?
Footnote 1: As a consequence of this approach to thinking and life, rationalists are, as a rule, unbelievably prolix, wall-eyed, and tedious writers, and also polyamorous.
"Wall-eyed" hit me as odd, so I go to look it up: https://www.wordnik.com/words/walleyed
The first entry:
adjective Often Offensive Affected with exotropia.
Well-played, Max!
I'm glad the non sanitized details are making it out.
fwiw, this /r/slatestarcodex poster says that Ziz of the Zizians did indeed take her name from Worm the web serial
“indirect personal communication”
You know I was wondering about where the name came from and it's sufficiently plausible that I believe it. Notably in the story her threat - the reason just being around her is so dangerous - is because she has some kind of perfect predictive ability on top of all the giant psychic kaiju nonsense. So she attacks a city and finds the one woman who needs to die in order for her super-thinker husband to go mad and build an army of evil robots or whatever.
It very much rhymes with the Rationalist image of a malevolent superintelligence and I can definitely understand it being popular in those circles, especially the "I'm too edgy to recognize that Taylor is wrong, actually" parts of the readership.
At least one fellow on Twitter painting us as Zizians.
Adding zizians to the list of things that sneerclub gets blamed for. After covid.
Guess they have not noticed we also have sneered at ziz, and that a lot of us are not living in america, nor the east coast of it.
lol. link?
Here's one that an xcancel search turned up (warning: is in Andy Ngo's replies)
