Free Our Feeds: "it will take independent funding and governance to turn Bluesky’s underlying tech—the AT Protocol—into something more powerful than a single app"
Free Our Feeds: "it will take independent funding and governance to turn Bluesky’s underlying tech—the AT Protocol—into something more powerful than a single app"
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/24751597
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/24748390
https://bsky.app/profile/freeourfeeds.com/post/3lfmvqip7zk2v
tldr, it's a new foundation launching with an open letter signed by:
Jimmy Wales, Founder of Wikipedia
Shoshana Zuboff, Professor Emerita, Harvard Business School and author of ‘The Age of Surveillance Capitalism’
Mark Ruffalo, Actor
Alex Winter, Actor and filmmaker
Audrey Tang, Former Minister of Digital Affairs, Taiwan
Roger McNamee, Businessman and author of ‘Zucked’
Brian Eno, Musician
Carole Cadwalladr, Investigative journalist
Cory Doctorow, Blogger and journalist
Akilah Hughes, Writer and comedian
Sebastian Soriano, Former Chairman, Arcep
Rosie Boycott, Member, UK House of Lords
Alexandra Geese, Member of the European Parliament, Greens/EFA
...
Bluesky has expressed a clear interest in public governance of the protocol they have developed. We are establishing a Foundation to help steward this process, to ensure that the AT Protocol remains capture-resistant and is instead governed in line with a thriving public interest and open community.
Or maybe, maybe, join the fediverse instead of yet another corporate media.
Or they could use ActivityPub
have you read about why they didn't?
Whatever reason they don't isn't a very good one when there's already excuses being made around AT proto not being scalable beyond a single app.
ActivityPub works today and we are using it right now. There's basically no incentive to make a new protocol if you aren't willing to support more than 1 platform that uses it.
I'm not even a bluesky hater, but you have to question why they're choosing to reinvent the wheel other than disliking the lack of agency that comes with making a (essentially) proprietary protocol. You have to wonder if they ever truly plan to federated at all or if it's all just lip-service.
Why didn't they?
Or you can bridge your account using bridgyfed and be on both with one account. This what I’m currently doing to access some a bluesky and make some of it accessible to me on mastodon. I really wish more people on bluesky would opt into the bridge at least, technology connections is one of the few that are interesting that have bridged. (He was on mastodon but decided to forego that to just bridge his bluesky account to the fediverse
Is there any instance other than Bluesky where people can register?
Is there any instance other than Bluesky where people can register?
There aren't "instances" in the ActivityPub sense, where "instance" means single point of failure you're married to (its name is literally part of your identity) which is simultaneously responsible for keeping your data available and curating your view of the rest of the network; AT Protocol decomposes these responsibilities so that they can be delegated independently to different operators.
See https://docs.bsky.app/docs/advanced-guides/federation-architecture and https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/ for details.
There are many people running their own Personal Data Servers, AppViews, Labelers, and Feed Generators, but I'm not aware of anybody else running a large-scale Relay yet (which is one of the things this new foundation says they are planning to work on). I'm also not sure if you can actually create a
did:plcusing a self-hosted AppView or if maybe you need to usedid:webto create a new identity without using their AppView currently.I’m not aware of anybody else running a large-scale Relay yet (which is one of the things this new foundation says they are planning to work on).
The fact that there still isn't any other relay besides thé Bluesky one isn't a good sign. If cost of running it is so high, how are enthusiast supposed to be able to run their own, and thus "own the town square"?
Bluesky. "We datamine, you pay the bills"
Looking at names I can see them making feeds free like openai is making ai open.
Bluesky is not free 🤷🏻♂️
in what sense
@lig
On several levels, but especially because of this : https://toad.social/@davetroy/113493454665487197