Steve Bannon Says U.S. Has to ‘Increase Taxes on the Wealthy’ Even if They ‘Start Squealing’
Steve Bannon Says U.S. Has to ‘Increase Taxes on the Wealthy’ Even if They ‘Start Squealing’
Bannon said breaking away from some of the GOP's long-held economic positions could help Donald Trump's legacy survive for decades.
Did... did I just slide to a parallel universe? Do I get to meet Jerry O'Connell? What the hell is going on?!
Exept Musk I assume. Or Trump. Or any other fascist fuck.
This is a 1932-type realignment, if we do this right
Guys, he's not talking about the re-alignment in America in 1932...
This reminds me of a manifesto I was reading for a proposed proletarian-run state. Comes from early 1900s, before the world went to shit because of the rise of fadcism. Particularly a few key points from their 25-point plan stood out to me:
- Abolition of unearned incomes [passive income, in today's terms]. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.
- In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice of life and property that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment due to a war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. Therefore, we demand ruthless confiscation of all war profits.
- We demand nationalization of all businesses which have been up to the present formed into companies (trusts).
- We demand that the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out.
- We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
- We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
- We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of land rent and prevention of all speculation in land.
- We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.
[...]
- The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious citizen to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. [...] We demand the education at the expense of the state of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.
- The state is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, [...]
Oops, wait, that's excerpted from The National Socialist Program
Yeah, it turns out Nazis have always been willing to use socialist rhetoric to appeal to the working class. They know what they're doing, but it's only a matter of time before what's determined to be for "the good of the workers" is coincidentally aligned with genocide and war and the greed of the ruling class..
TL;DR Nazis were always on board with taxing the rich... Until they didn't have any more competition, at which point it's back to oligarchy (and genocide, lots and lots of genocide).
I was wondering with a few of those. Particularly number 18 is dropping fucking anvil sized hints. And knowing what to look for the rest fall neatly into line with their position against reparations and American government loans; their stance on veteran's care; and their conspiracy that corporations cost them world war 1, (this handily turned into Jews the second they needed corporate money).
So yeah I guess what I'm saying is you should definitely look the gift horse in the mouth. I learned this lesson as a kid in the 90's watching Newt Gingrich talk about how we need to do more to help poverty stricken and homeless children. I was nodding right along and then he got to his solution, workhouses. He even used an updated "Dignity of Work" line about how they'll learn useful skills and be proud of themselves.
Sooooo, current day russia?
Ya, explains a lot tbh.
You can increase the taxes. The hard part is making them pay it
Bannon is an anger salesmen. Anger salesmen don't sell you somene else's anger, though -- they can't. Instead, they package up your own anger, and sell it back to you.
Bannon sees the the reaction people are habing to CEOs right now, slapping a big ol' bow on it, and selling it back to people.
I've been hate listening to his podcast. A lot of what he says would be considered pretty eft leaning. But then a lot of it is conspiracy minded. Honestly Lauren to his podcast, it's pretty unbearable, but he hates the elites as much as anyone here. It probably goes some way to understanding why trump won
But he and Trump are elites. Especially Trump. You really can't get much more elite than someone who owns a skyscraper in Manhattan with his name on it.
i love that shiteating grin on his face underneath this headline
Lmao it's like when the old white men become senile and slide to the right except Bannon is morally inverted.
Maybe he doesn't want to get targeted by the adjuster. I mean killing CEO and the rich is hot right now with the 99%.
It's not polling all that well, tbh. Only hot with 41% across the income spectrum among youths, lower in every other demographic.
First time I agree with Steve Bannon on anything, ever.
He's just talking nonsense though. There is zero chance Trump will tax the billionaires overall. They paid him off, they own him.
But possibly of he's feeling particularly pesky, he might target people he doesn't like and target only them and pretend he did something meritorious.
Absolutely correct. Trump already told them if they help get him re-elected, he'll cut their taxes.
And when has Trump ever kept his promises?
I’ll tell you wants going on. He is saying the quiet part out loud.
He is admitting that conservatives have always known what would make the country better but refused to admit it, instead have always played “dumb” by claiming their free market and deregulation approach is what they honestly believe is best for the country.
I might be reading too much into it but imo this shows that decades of democrats playing fair and true to the process is why we got here. Because selfish people realized that they can take advantage of the benefit of the doubt and just ruin the government while pretending they don’t know any better.
Pretty evil, more than I actually expected from him tbh.
And hell just froze over.
He knows exactly what he's doing. It's multiple groups of shitheads using each other to gain power, not just one big group of elites who are all trustworthy buddies.
My guess is that Musk will need to buy a merc army before he's able to establish his own nation in space. Might already have one.
There's a reason he's been having Tesla divert more resources to their Optimus robots. The man intends to have a machine army that he could use in a coup. We play our cards right and get behind cloning research, we could have a Grand Clone Army. 200,000 units now, with a million more well on the way. Begun, the Clone Wars have.
Sounds promising, except the “wealthy” he’s considering are probably in the 80k-250k bracket lol
Unless they’re targeting multimillionaires+, it’s not gonna work. The other half of this is that there needs to be an open and transparent process for keeping tracking of how taxes are spent
Edit but since it’s a bunch of kleptocrats in govt now, what to think of that? I guess rich progressives/dems/libs better make sure they’re using the same loop holes to conserve wealth that the conservatives will, otherwise it’s just playing a game rigged to kill you.
Rule of Acquisition #76: Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies.
"four months in prison and he's already starting to sound like a god damn liberal. we should ban prisons before more people are indoctrinated by the left."
There's really no limit to using this kind of logic in this manner. They've been conditioned to accept any reasoning as long as it's presented as anti-woke or along those lines. If Trump said exactly what you did Republicans would be lining up to abolish the private prison system the next day.
What the fuck is going on?
edit: this question was not literal
It's the fiscally liberal but socially conservative strategy. Produce a coalition of christofascists, conservative leaning unions, religious minded immigrants, the subset of naturalized immigrants who want to pull the ladder up behind them, socially conservative elites, and low SES voters.
And he's right, that combination is a powerhouse of voters that would give them the south, the mountain west and most of the midwest. It leaves out a class that could easily be pigeonholed as "elites" in the big cities on the coasts - and would align our political structure more like Turkey or India's.
In other words, DT peeled off a layer of disenfranchized democratic voters that were ripe for the taking, Bannon wants to build a strategy that keeps them.
Fucking DNC gave them this opportunity
Lenin watches Danton and decided his big losing moment was preaching reason to revolutionaries, losing his head in the process.
He studies hard the play book, decides to push hard with the revolutionaries and upends the Tsar and half the world.
100 years later Banon watches Lenin...
Its criminal what we call history in the States.
They might seem like they work together, but there are different grifters with slightly different goals. Banon wants to bring fascism back.
It's another grift
Steve Bandwagon strikes again.
Populist gonna Populist.
I'm so confused.
IKR? I didn't think I'd ever agree with a word dude said
He's talking about California and New York. You know, kind of like they did when Trump was president last time.
They have no principles. They believe nothing except what is politically expedient. They will say this, do the opposite, and insist their plan worked. Don’t play along, consistency is only relevant for people acting in good faith.
But what does President Musk think about raising taxes on the rich?
I fully can see him being the type that makes an exception for himself and totally screws over his billionaire peers.
He doesn’t look like someone that would get along with his peers.
Our taxes should be paid directly to Musk instead of going through the government.
With a cabinet made of billionaires?
Yeah ok what else you want us to smoke
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day
It won’t happen. He’s sayin this to avoid getting shot
What the fuck did I just read?
Bannon might be a piece of shit, but he knows everyone else is too, and isn't afraid to talk bluntly and openly about it.
Something tells me that, if the white house was on fire, he'd be laughing.
Given the basic implausibility of the horseshoe theory, why do so many centrist commentators insist on perpetuating it? The likely answer is that it allows those in the centre to discredit the left while disavowing their own complicity with the far right. Historically, it has been “centrist” liberals – in Spain, Chile, Brazil, and in many other countries – who have helped the far right to power, usually because they would rather have had a fascist in power than a socialist.
Today’s fascists have also been facilitated by centrists
Same place happens to have a much newer article that concludes much the same.
Horseshoe models should be scrutinised for what they put in and what they choose to leave out. They emphasise values such as individualism, free markets and moderate policies, but register few of the social inequalities, exploitation and structural violence that often accompany them.
So while the left–right spectrum isn’t perfect, bending it into a horseshoe doesn’t do much to explain the strange political bedfellows of our times.
Well maybe the theory's wielders are wrong, but I still buy the basic premise.
The extreme left and right are slowly gravitating towards similar conclusions about who thier real enemies are... basically, billionares.
