Programming communities already exist

@Hexarei @RandomDevOpsDude

A lot of the time I don't even know where a post is coming from. They show up on my mastodon feed, I reply. I've clicked source links before and gone to completely new lemmy instances I never knew about.

Absolutely, which is why I never linked to Reddit. So I'm already loving and prefferring lemmy over Reddit 100%!

As I see it perfect is the enemy of the good in this case. Rules, official or unofficial, on the "correct way" to do things stifle growth especially when there's few contributing users. That little extra barrier is enough to keep many people from even bothering at all. You want people to be engaged and excited rather than feeling they're beholden to a bureaucracy. Or worse beholden to an existing group of power users that control things by being the first or the loudest.

That's just the way things work when humans self-organize. There is the appearance of structure at the beginning, because there just aren't that many people with shared interests. Then as people are unsuccessful in finding the community they'd like (assuming they even looked!) more are created. Then more people come in and mill about and browse and get overwhelmed by the search for a needle in a haystack, so they create more.

Eventually, some communities reach a critical mass and a bunch of small ones fade away into near irrelevance or disappear completely.

As far as I know, the only way to put the brakes on community over-proliferation (if that's even a real thing!) is to add a bit of friction to the creation process. Many kinds of friction devolve into centralization and gatekeeping, so they tend to be avoided in projects like this.

The only kind of friction that I can see working and gaining acceptance would be some kind of "have you tried these communities?" auto-search during the creation process. Simply asking people to search first is unproductive for two reasons. First, people are notoriously bad at imagining that someone else might have thought of something first, especially when they are only person they know with that particular interest. (I've only met a dozen other programmers in 43 years. In my entire life (66) I've not met a single person with even a passing interest in boatbuilding, let alone an actual boatbuilder, etc). Second, even if they consider that someone else thought of it first, people are notoriously bad at searching.

I am subscribed too them all, there is no limit on how many communities you can subscribe too or cross-post too..

That is their statement, but this doesn't change the outcome. I cannot participate, I am not welcome in their communities. I see no reason why new communities can't be created on instances which won't defederate, even temporarally.

When it comes back, I'll still avoid the instance. I'm not going to participate where I could suddenly become unwelcome again. They've done it once, they'll do it again. As is their right, the heavy handed moderation is their stated goal, but it's also my, and other peoples, right to simply go elsewhere when we are unwelcome.

Other instances will do this too. One answer to this question of 'why create another copy community' is for this situation. When we are no longer wanted in one place, why not create another?

Thank you for the kind reply though. While I disagree with the action I'm happy they have the ability to create the site they want