The EU proposal to scan all your WhatsApp chats is back on the agenda
The EU proposal to scan all your WhatsApp chats is back on the agenda
The controversial CSAM scanning plan keeps coming back – and being rejected
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22814154
What we need are laws to prevent this kind of court trolling because courts all over europe are wasting time and money on these repeated proposals. Politicians should be held accountable for wasting everyone's time.
Context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_to_Prevent_and_Combat_Child_Sexual_Abuse
How your representatives in EU parliament voted: https://mepwatch.eu/9/vote.html?v=134463&country=fr|de
Looks like it's mostly german representatives that block it. They remember the stasi.
It was the one good thing the german liberal party FDP was good for, but they aimed to destroy the coalition from the inside (literally! they made plans and discussion meetings when the best time to destroy it would be). And now they are out and we have the SPD and the Greens left. So one party who really has a hard on for surveillance and the other one who is undecided.
In all seriousness, the EU has become beyond frustrating in so many ways... Kudos for fighting against corporate monoliths, but... c'moon!
I don't think you get the EU. It's a democracy and everyone can submit proposals.
This is a proposal from pro-Russian Orban from Hungary, and not EU's opinion.
I see your point, although I still can't shake the impression that the entire EU's shifting away from its potential of being the best example. Sure, it's down to individual people with individual views, but we're still to see if it's greater than the sum of its parts, to be honest...
Don't get me wrong, I'd still rather we have the EU than not have it, but I'd wish to see a lot more reasonable and rational minds on the council and have it be felt throughout its policies.
You shouldn't be using whatsapp anyway.
First they came for whatsapp. I didn't say anything because I don't use whattsapp.
And instead use what? Signal? And then chat with the zero other people who use it?
Telling europeans to not use whatsapp is like telling people not to use the power grid. It's more popular here than iMessages are in the US.
I'm European using signal, I frequent in two countries very often (not neighbouring countries) and for the past two years I've noticed more and more people using signal.
Ditched whatsapp half a year ago and haven't had problems. Some friends use both signal and whatsapp.
Not saying many in whole Europe use signal but it certainly is not only popular in US.
Edit: but not saying using signal will change anything if this bill passes. No matter what popular app we use we are going to have no privacy at all if this thing passes...
Look, it was discussed for years already and we have a consensus; it's technically and legally not possible without giving you the keys (methaphorically and literally) and we can't give you the keys because that would quickly lead to you abusing the power given to you.
I use signal but I always kind of wanted to switch people to threema but in reality it's hard enough getting them to install signal.
Threema really doesn't do a good job of making it easy to switch. For the regular user there is too much that can go wrong and its too easy to lose your chats when migrating to a new phone
I actually don’t really understand how they would do this. Isn’t WhatsApp end to end by protocol? They’d have to share messages at the client side. What a mess.
They want to force WhatsApp to scan your private messages on your device.
End-to-end encryption is worthless, when it's done by a company like meta in a closed source project.
If you own the client, you own the message, agreed.
End to end encrypted with keys stored on Meta's servers.
Just kidding but I'm sure there's a backdoor somewhere.