It's getting harder and harder to win this fight. I'm Romanian and I'm afraid on sunday our poor/uneducated people will vote for the far right. I don't even have any idea if I can leave for other country because everywhere you look the far right is gaining political territory.
This is more of a government versus the people fight. No matter what form of government it is. Citizens should have privacy. Although they do not seem to be willing to fight for it. But all governments, no matter what type they are, want control.
It's not some break towards fascism. It's more like liberal capitalism has always had a fascist tendency and right now the western elite feels pressured everywhere so they let the mask slip and start easing in the policies of the periphery back to the core, just to keep power. This chat control is there to both allow easier crackdowns, but most of all make everybody feel that they are being watched and are less likely to start any shit against the status quo and submit, as if in a panopticon.
I'm not even a European and yet I can see that this is going to be one of those on again, off again fights until they finally wear people down far enough that they don't voice their outrage and get it passed.
yeah the elites who run the world have limitless money for the lobbying. I don't think it's possible to win this war on their turf under their rigged rules. Revolution is the only way but I don't think that's a realistic possibility neither. They have so many ways to divide and conquer.
Organized child porn rings don’t use e-mail or messenger services, but rather secret self-operated forums. With its plans for chat control, the EU Commission is putting the general security of our private communications and public networks, business secrets and state secrets at risk out of short-term surveillance desires. What we need is removals instead of snooping!”
This is so true, I don't get how anyone can find the governments actions justifiable.
Which pedophile that has at least one single braincell actually use unencrypted email providers like gmail, and without any additional encryption such as PGP? This does more harm than good.
It's exactly the reason why I stopped playing OSRS. For those who don't know, it's an old MMO that allows people to "vote" on changes to the game. Except that if something doesn't pass, they just change a few words around until it does pass. That's not democracy, or even true voting.
The choices are biased. It's like asking why Hitler was a great man and keep getting people to vote until the result is "Yes, Hitler did great with the Volkswagen" and boom, a narrative is created by democratic vote. It's a joke. And YET AGAIN I have to send a mass email to all 30 of my countries representatives in the hope to fix democracy from the ground up.
Fuck you chat control.
Fuck all the ones in favor and the ones who keep working on getting it passed.
OSRS is a great example because it's extremely obvious with their new skill votes. It made me realize a lot about the politics around this chat control proposal.
It blows my mind that the EU even considers anything Orban says. He is on Russia’s side in a war where the EU is supporting Ukraine. And has led Hungary to a level of authoritarianism that no longer coincides with the EU rules of acceptance. It isn’t shocking that this nazi would bring back a “law” so he has more control over his citizens. What is sad is that so many other EU countries think it is a good thing. It is an obvious and egregious attack on privacy, something the EU has defended in the past. It is a shame that world-wide the pendulum is swinging the wrong way.
This was never Orban's or Hungary's idea, it is something the previous presidency could not implement due to the lack of time and it's now Hungary's role to talk about it because the presidency is currently held by Hungary. This doesn't change the fact that there are many EU members that are in support of the idea if implemented well. Anyhow, it's not just for controlling citizents but legally keeping political opponents at check, which is even worse.
im hungarian and for hate speech against politicans i could get 1 year in prison. I already did it so much that i'm eligable for the life imprisonment, so if i disappear, you know why
Can someone please explain the process? This has been talked about forever, but nothing happens. Is something going to happen now? What's the timeline?