Live updates: Trump and others indicted in Georgia

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Georgia grand jury returns indictments in Trump 2020 election interference case – follow live

MSNBC just said it's a single 41 count indictment. Previous reporting said it was 10 indictments. That was based on a screengrab that outlets used as rush-to-air unchecked copypasta.

CNN - I alphabetized it...

Here are the names and titles of all 19 people charged in Georgia case
There are 19 people charged in the Georgia case, according to the indictment.
Donald Trump, former US president
Kenneth Chesebro, pro-Trump lawyer
Jeffrey Clark, top Justice Department official
Robert Cheeley, lawyer who promoted fraud claims
John Eastman, Trump lawyer
Jenna Ellis, Trump campaign lawyer
Harrison Floyd, leader of Black Voices for Trump
Rudy Giuliani, Trump lawyer
Scott Hall, tied to Coffee County election system breach
Misty Hampton, Coffee County elections supervisor
Trevian Kutti, publicist tied to intimidation of election workers
Cathy Latham, fake GOP elector tied to Coffee County breach
Stephen Lee, pastor tied to intimidation of election workers
Mark Meadows, White House chief of staff
Sidney Powell, Trump campaign lawyer
Mike Roman, Trump campaign official
David Shafer, Georgia GOP chair and fake elector
Ray Smith, Trump campaign attorney
Shawn Still, fake GOP elector

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How is Ken Chesebro a real name
- ken chesebro and nick pickles of x-twitter are the leaders of gotham's hors d'oeuvre gang. they're a staple in the adam west batman show.
  
  Oh, that Ken Chesebro. He worked with Mitchell Mayo, the Condiment King IIRC.
- White people have names.
- Came here to post that lol
- Reminds me of that time I was represented by Jim Babwe.
Happy 4th Indictment Day for anyone else who celebrates!
- Biden should give a rousing speech...
  Good evening. Prosecutors from here will join others from around America. And they will be launching the largest legal battle in this history of mankind. Mankind - that word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate that today is the 4th indictment, and they willl once again be fighting for our freedom, not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution - but from annihilation.
  We're fighting for our right to live, to exist. And should we win the day, the 4th indictment will not be known as an American holiday but as the day when the world declared in one voice... We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today, we celebrate our 4th Indictment Day!
  
  :07:
  
  It took me far too long to realize where this was from.
  
  And then Will Smith walks up to Trump and slaps the orange off his face while shouting, "Welcome to Georgia!"
AH
WELL
NEVERTHELESS
I did everything right...
Related - Why do liberals think the Georgia Trump pardon won't happen? - Hexbear
- Copied the full post over as I imagine it gets buried under the news
  Things to get out of the way:
  I know a U.S. president can't pardon state level crimes
  I know the Georgia governor can't pardon state crimes in Georgia
  In Georgia a council, appointed by the governor, has the pardon power in the state after it was stripped from GA governors because of corruption in the past.
  As far as I'm aware (per coverage of things tonight), that council is all Republican and only has loose self-imposed guidelines/norms about the process by which a person can apply for a pardon.
  Why do liberals think this is a slam dunk when that council can seemingly at any time change these rules to the extent of even giving a preemptive pardon? The governor can't replace these people instantly as they're on some x year term scheme.
  Is this just more hopeful "the walls are closing in" or am I missing something here?
  Edit also the Georgia state republicans gave themselves the power to fire D.A.s in 2 weeks time. It's obvious this is going to be used, no?
  
  So the whole gambit is cooked. No shot this is taking him down. Not surprised lol, libs think the system is the inerrant word of God.
  
  Yeah it seems pretty easy for him to get out of this and even if he were to go to prison, he'll still likely win the election
Speculative questions/observations.
It seems obvious to me that as these trials go on that Republicans are going to use increasingly brazenly corrupt means to dodge/alter/fire D.A.s/pardon crimes.
Is this in conjunction with various state legislator shenanigans and districting bullshit i.e. how Alabama and Ohio (and also potentially Tennessee depending on an on-going lawsuit) are going to ignore re-draw orders to wait out the clock and use the psychotically gerrymandered maps for 2024 enough to get the U.S. to actual cool-zone balkanization discussions or are even things this openly corrupt and in plain sight not enough to get the ball rolling?
I know (well guess) that ultimately US balkanization rests on either capital deciding that the state of things are too untenable for its profit interests and/or the evangelical base in the states to start trying to express state-captured power openly, but I guess I'm asking do you think the continually escalating corruption is enough to get liberals to actually push back in some concrete, non-performative way.
I guess I'm wondering what level of overt corruption sparks these conversations in the mainstream (or even if that discourse is possible).
- openly corrupt and in plain sight
  If the GOP does its political corruption and crimes in public - libs can be incredibly passive about it. It would have been laughable in fiction in 2014 before Trump became a candidate. But Trump showed that in reality it's actually true. An example is that Trump's Georgia phone call happened in January, 2021. The libs were shocked but January 6th happened just a few days later.
  Steve Bannon turned out to be dead right. The phone call became just another event in the Trump tsunami of shit. It's counter-intuitive but Trump flooded the zone with shit and it was actually less bad for him. The libs simply do not give a fuck that Biden and the dems have passed zero federal legislation to protect elections. And the DC dems haven't even made empty promises to in the future!
  Libs are weirdly passive about the lack of federal action on that just as they are about the death of Roe and the mealy-mouthed DC dem promises to codify it into law... sometime. I guess blue state dems really believe they can ignore what's happening in the red states and won't reach them. Red state dems must turn up the denial to 11. I know we make fun of such lib idiocy all the time but I really don't get it.
MSNBC legal talking head...
Something tells me Fani Willis is going to want a mugshot & fingerprints.
Nitter
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