Musk has been a near-constant presence at Mar-a-Lago, where he has sat in on important meetings and calls.
Summary
Elon Musk’s frequent presence at Mar-a-Lago and his involvement in sensitive conversations have raised concerns among Trump’s longstanding advisers, who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting.
Musk’s push for influence, including voicing policy ideas and taking credit for Trump’s win, has raised concerns about his motives and loyalty.
It's funny... I said that when Trump dies it will be total chaos because all these people hate each other and they will all work as hard as possible to tear each other apart since Trump is the only thing that unites them.
Elon Musk is a once in a generation business leader
That's not a compliment, that's a prerequisite to becoming everything Musk currently is. If "a generation" of people had been afforded even one percent of the privilege he's received, Musk would've been outshined by more competent people long ago.
Trump has a habit of burning everyone close to him the second it is either (A) useful to him or (B) they are no longer unswerving loyal to their fuhrer. Musk is a dumbshit nepobaby who can't shut the fuck up and steals credit for everything he's near that he didn't ruin. It's only a matter of time before Trump burns Musk, and all I can ask for is that it completely ruins them both.
I suspect Musk's welcome is as long as his chequebook.
I think trump sees the $, if his "advisors" are offering him less $ I doubt Trump cars to listen.
The only issue might be if any of it could be proven to be criminal bribery - that seems unlikely though.
Trump is literally and figuratively immune against any prosecution. He raped children, stole and killed millions.
I am no American, but at this point I think he could produce and distribute CP right in the oval office and nothing would happen. And that is the one thing next to murder, he didn't already commit publicly.
Oh man, I would love to see Musk be the first purged from his administration. Maybe he will take the hint and stay out of the public eye after Trumpers turn on him.
Maybe he will take the hint and stay out of the public eye after Trumpers turn on him.
Do you really believe that? I have a hard time even imagining something like that. He loves himself waaaay too much to do this. Being hated seems to be some kind of achievement for him and he's proud of it.
I’m sorry for being harsh, but the only reason the democrats exist is to slow down the fascists ever so slightly and then just peacefully hand over power to the fascists when they gain control again.
We need real change, the kind of change that only comes from a revolution. The democrats do not give a shit about you. They serve only the wealthy.
Stop believing their lies. Go out there and unionise!!
He a) isn’t that smart and b) would have fucked that plan by handing him all the power with all that money and making the weird incel vote even more guaranteed.
Trump’s longstanding advisers, who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting.
Sounds like "trumps longstanding advisors" are worried they did all this work to get trump in power to use him are seeing musk come in and begin to use trump instead of them.
Honestly, once Trump gets sworn in, I assume the people around him who want to implement Project 2025 won't have any more use for him. That's why Vance is there, just look at his track record, he knows how to play ball.
People should be afraid of musk. He’s gone completely mad with power. He doesn’t have to BE the president to be the hand in the puppet. Trump would be difficult to control, but whoever follows trump will be hand-picked.
My coping fantasy plays off of their arrogance. Imagine it. On the day of Trump’s inauguration, he admits that climate change is real and shouts, “good luck, suckers,” as he and Musk board a SpaceX rocket bound for Mars.
He’s an accelerationist. He knows the death of America is coming and wants to be sitting pretty, real close to the top when it happens; so he can use his money to become king.
Which is several layers of stupid, seriously most of the time when empires collapse the ones in power are either remains of the old bureaucracy or warlords. The rich are usually a non factor unless they already fit into one of the previous two situations. None of the billionaires have enough hard power to pull that off in the long term.
Yup! Weirdly Trump's own worst qualities also tend to neuter his ability to deal damage somewhat (only somewhat! Goddamn is the man just a pandimensional wrecking ball). He attracts some of the very worst people, but then he chews through them for whatever purpose he had in mind for them, and then invariably even those people leave his orbit and go "wow everyone, that guy really is a piece of shit". Pretty incredible stuff.
Similarly, his only actual ambition is personal greed, specifically his own wealth and fame. There's no ideology or barely even planning in him I don't think. Pretty sure his life is really best described as just the series of the nastiest, most self-serving moves he could think of at each moment along the way, with zero purpose except his own enrichment, both in dollars and fame/what he probably perceives as "power".
Of course what he seems to see as power or something desirable, everyone not trapped in his S-tier narcissism distortion field sees as just him stating the terms of his own manipulation to whomever wants to take advantage, for mutual benefit. Right in the open. But sure, he's the tough talker we need on the world stage, lol. Amazing. Sorry, just realized I have reached full tangent mode now, I regret nothing but I'll end my rant heh.
Regardless of how many loyalists he has he'll get in the way of himself along with some Republicans in the senate, Democrats using the filibuster and the right wing media will get him to change his mind. 2 years isn't a lot to make all of these changes before the democrats at least take back the House
This is all very true - I'm just hoping he hasn't learned from last time about how to effect change in government. Unfortunately it seems like those around him are just more sycophantic than last time. One thing he has learned is "who is loyal" which could be a problem...
Oh please let Trump's first dictatorial move be to strip Elon of his wealth. We're all going to suffer some shit but let at least one oligarch stuffer too
It can start by denaturalizing him since he lied on his immigration forms and was in the country illegally when he first came here. That's not even dictatorial, it's the letter of the law.
"First they came for the Oligarchs and I did not speak out - because I was not an Oligarch, and really because wage inequality is the core problem facing our society so coming for the Oligarchs seemed like a pretty good idea to me."
It's not to piss them off, but to send a message. Just like Putin, he's going to put the screws to somebody wealthy to send the message "I did it to them, I can do it to you."