It’s not alarmist: A second Trump term really is an extinction-level threat to democracy

It's not so alarming what will happen if Trump gets elected

What's more alarming for me is how dumb America could be that they are even considering electing someone like him ... or to even have a choice between an average politician or a wannabe fascist and everyone is having a hard time deciding on what the sane option is.

This is a general intelligence test for America ... and so far they are failing.

Erdogan once said "democracy is a bus we ride until we reach our destination". I feel major similar vibes from the GOP.

I don't know exactly how bad a second Trump term would be, but I'd really rather not find out. At best it will be embarrassing and absurd, at worst it would be devastating and catastrophic for countless millions, both inside and outside the US.

A second Trump term really is an extinction-level threat to democracy worldwide, not just in United States. Considering that Trump and his supporters promise an isolationist policy, all sorts of predatory authoritarian and totalitarian regimes will suddenly feel like they can do anything - and this will start happening all over the world.

If American democracy elects Trump, then your version of it has already failed.

Chomsky was right when he properly pointed out that Republicans are the biggest threat to the world.

Donnie is merely a symptom. No Republicans ever should be allowed to hold any office.

GOP is an extinction level threat to humanity

I think he’s a symptom of a much larger disease. The people behind him, the evangelicals, non college educated whites, the climate change deniers, the industrialists who fight every regulation, the behind closed doors racists. These are the democracy extinction harbingers.

For those who disagree, simply read about Spain, Italy, Germany, and Japan during the 1930's. Furthermore, the Electoral College should be shut down.

I made these pictures because I don't think that arguments like "Trump is a threat to democracy" are something his supporters agree with. Maybe people could share these things in groups they know in these last couple days before the election.

I'd argue here that right next to Trump, it is the electoral college. But, as Americans can't do anything to change their electoral system, they are probably already owned. If it isn't Trump, it will be another Trump-like candidate, whether Republican or Democrat.

And if he loses, so will the next Republican.

And the next one.

And the next one.

The civil servant job thing is an insurance plan disguised as job security. It would enable Trump to fill the bureaucracy with loyal stooges who will keep doing his bidding during the next administration - like his House cronies did when he told them not to pass the bipartisan border security bill so he could use the border as his main campaign issue.

I would literally prefer a steaming pile of shit as president than Trump.

The same two parties have been cycling in power for a decade and you are now voting between a fascist and a genocide supporter. Democracy already doesn't exist in USA

American democracy, anyways.

There is actually little daylight between Biden and Trump on an international level. The real difference is between the parties. If you're American I can 100% understand why you'd never want the GOP anywhere near education, healthcare, climate policy etc. Their religious zealotry, genocidal inclinations towards Muslims (which is present but far more muted among Dems), racial antipathy and paranoia of black people and anti-intellectualism are a recipe for national decline and unrestrained global abuse of non-white, non-Christian peoples.

The Democrats have a neoconservative problem which also threatens the entire world. But sadly the responsible and sensible side of America is stuck with them.

Here, in the German press, I recently heard Trump described as not being the catastrophe itself, he rather is just a symptom of a deep rift going through US society.

Judging by what he did during his first term: Regarding Germany nothing much happened that was any worse than whatever Obama or grampa Biden did during the adjacent terms. A lot of isolationism happened under Biden. In the term before Trump, a lot of murdering people (including a lot of "collateral damage, aka murderings of civilists") happened under Obama with his over the top employment of drone warfare.

I don't see much of a difference by whoever becomes the next GRÖFAZ POTUS.

No one who listens to a wide range of news sources and gets a balanced perspective talks like this. If you agree with this you need to branch out and challenge yourself with different world views, even if it is difficult for you.

You know I really can’t tell, and as a non-American outsider see that both sides are being extremely alarmist at this moment. Although the main criticism of Harris is that she is more of the same, there are plenty who try to paint her as a radical and dangerous left-winger, when she is nothing of the sort of course. Makes one wonder where the real Donald Trump ends and the caricature begins on the other end of the spectrum.

This is simply what we call polarization in politics, and is very hurtful to any semblance of unity that nationhood requires. America will likely not heal from this for a while, no matter who wins. Unless, whoever wins, delivers on something that matters to everyone, regardless of politics, that is usually something having to do with the cost and quality of life. That tends to placate people, even while their freedoms are being curtailed.

But I do feel that Trump is more symptom than cause. And the article suggests as much as well:

“…rising political antagonism in America is a perennial outgrowth of its defining conflict over race and national identity — with the current round of conflict sparked largely (albeit not entirely) by backlash to Barack Obama’s 2008 victory.”

Even Dems agree Trump will likely pull out of Ukraine. Trump seems like his battle with China will be over tariffs, and less military-focused than the Dem Sinophobia. Though of course, Trump will also continue writing a blank check to Israel.

That’s two less escalation fronts with nuclear armed superpowers under Trump. The Dems are measurably closer to an extinction level threat.

But realistically we need to topple both capitalist parties to save humanity.

ITT: small, shithole country thinks it's elections matter even slightly to the rest of the world.

"I'm not an alarmist, but let me start the alarm"

It’s not alarmist: A second Trump term really is an extinction-level threat to democracy

No, it is not an extinction-level threat to democracy. We have plenty of democracy in the rest of the western world, thank you very much. A second Trump term would be a huge threat to US democracy though. But that's not what this headline implies. Extinct means gone forever, from everywhere. That's simply not the case. I'm tired of Americans forgetting that there's a world outside their borders.