Please Consider Defederating from rammy.site

I was skeptical of this claim so I went and had a look. Here's some of the posts I saw:

"Polar Ice Sheets are thicker than ever despite predictions that the Arctic and Antarctic would be ‘Ice free’"

"Leftist Parents “Flee” Florida Because Of New Laws Blocking Child Mutilation"

"It’s strange how you never see pedophiles, im sorry, drag queens reading to old people instead of kids"

So yeah some pretty insane takes there

To everyone who’s been telling OP off, claiming “free speech” and such: there’s still free speech. They can say whatever they want, but we don’t want to hear it. To correct myself: the majority of us don’t want to hear it. You have every right to convert instances if you disagree. Moderation is always going to be opinion-based; everyone has their own opinion of right and wrong.

So don’t talk about “free speech” and then wonder why you get downvoted into oblivion. We simply don’t want to have to deal with this nonsense. Keep in mind too that Lemmy doesn’t let you block an instance yet(AFAIK); it’s up to the instance admins. Just like a government, a user is going to pick the instance to best represent them. And just like a government, that instance will probably act in favor of the majority. So please just stop complaining. There is no plus to federating with rammy.site and frankly, we don’t need them.

They need to give us (the users) the ability to block instances. So people will stop posting this stuff all the time and we (the people) will have the power.

EDIT Also I love how people never have proof (links or screenshots) to prove you're not lying.

Do it.

Enough with tolerating that bullshit.

Let them spew their hate, just make sure it’s contained.

Preferably where nobody can see or hear them.

Wow I really regret going there to see if it's that bad. It's worse than I could have anticipated. Worse than r/theDonald ever got

Thanks making a post about this!

You actually don't need to campaign to defederate every instance that offends you. Lemmy provides the ability to report posts and block posts, users, and instances. I get that there are a lot of shitheads, assholes, and idiots on the Internet... Defederating might be throwing the baby out with the bathwater in many cases. Hell, if you listened to everyone shouting about the assholes you shouldn't support no one would be on Lemmy at all. Also, small I hobby instances are run by people with lives. Perhaps the admin will have time in the near future to clean up what's been reported. Or maybe it really is abandoned. We just don't know.

When someone starts campaigning to defederate an instance it immediately starts my senses tingling because I think I'm getting a version of the story... and it's doubtful I'll hear the other side. It offends the same part of as people complaining about downvotes did on Reddit. Take advice from a cartoon dog. "It's not the done thing." Or it shouldn't be, at least.

Had this post just been letting people know what you observed about the instance I would be more moved to investigate and perhaps report posts and block the instance. I might still if I see hateful speech in All... but the implication that their hate will fester, breed, and spread if they aren't immediately defederated is using the same tactics that right wing populists are... by dehumanizing people and playing on other people's fear. It is just as wrong for you as it is for them to do it.

Well, I'm late to the party, but it seems like rammy.site is failing to load for me.

If it's as bad as it sounds from the quotes I read, then it should definitely be defederated from. Any instance peddling hate and/or propoganda needs to be defederated immediately. They need to be denied audiences.

Edit: Well following the rammy.site link thru lemmy.world does not load at all, but it loads just fine if I search rammy.site on a browser. Could that mean that lemmy.world admins have defederated already, and haven't announced it yet? Here's hoping.

They defederated hexbear preemptively. Why not this one ? This needs to happen.

I am a proud member of lemmy.ca (and lemmy.world) and let me tell you I have no idea what rammy.site is not the other one that was defederared from.

What I will tell you, as a left leaning person, is nothing of value is gained from crying wolf every time a person or people disagree with your beliefs even, and let me be perfectly clear even if your beliefs are the better ones.

Op. Step away from the keyboard and from Lemmy and get some fresh air.

As much as I would probably disagree with their messages and posts, would they not do the same to us if the positions were to be switched?

I personally take a stance closer to "all deserve a connected platform and if you don't like it, block them" as even if I might disagree with them, they still deserve a platform.

Well, I dont think lemmy.world should be linked with instances that have totally different rules. Maybe small difference in rules is fine, but this extreme stuff will make entire lemmy.world less appealing

So basically, they've done something to offend you, and you want to defederate from them because you don't agree with whatever they're doing or saying.

So much for freedom and no censorship. Go back to reddit if that's what you want.

I understand. But IMO this is a huge problem with federated server models: you're making that choice for everyone on the server.

Now keep in mind I don't know what they're posting on rammy lemmy instance. If they're doing some KKK shit over there I probably agree with you. But I'd say if it's just right wing Trumpies I'd say it's wrong to do that over political spectrum.

unless they're breaking standard Internet boilerplate rules I don't think it's a good idea. Free speech is a good thing but it always comes with idiots. It's a package deal. Let that reside at a user level. Remember there are extremists on the left just like there is the right.

Edit: One might consider too whether some of these are political propaganda accounts. This should be looked into especially now that AI is so widely available especially.

Just ban their communities if you dont want to see their content, its not that hard!

What do you get from defederating them? If you are concerned with these idiots go there and teach them what's good, you will do a big favor for everyone. As long as they can't censor you their stupid ideas will never win on good.

Just defederate everyone and make world standalone lmao.

Ego feels nice huh?