[Transphobia Warning] Nutomic’s Stance on Transgender People

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[Transphobia Warning] Nutomic’s Stance on Transgender People

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“If the capitalists are ok with something it must be bad”

Classic
- Same reasoning that leads to people praising authoritarian regimes like China and Russia.
- That's not what they are saying.
  
  What are they saying?
- I mean...
  
  Maybe we can examine issues on their own merits rather than trying to squeeze every round peg into the class struggle square hole?
Pretty much the only other time I have seen any transphobia on Lemmy is from a .ml user who called someone a chaser for saying they were married to a femboy. These people don't actually care about LGBT issues - they are just trolls who use it as a cudgel when it is convenient.
That's pretty shitty but not surprising for tankies.
Can someone explain to someone out of the loop what's transphobic about his post?
- Saying that the topic of "caring about transgender and LGBT issues" is promoted by the bourgeois is clearly not intended to indicate they respect those communities concerns.
  
  The "men in women's sports" thing is just straight up transphobic, sexist misinformation.
  It shouldn't need to be explained, but using "trans" as a label to attack a woman to delegitimize her sporting victory is just a hot mess of issues.
  
  This entire train of conversation seems bizarre to me. While I don't know the intention, the topic is being promoted by companies. Fervently. And having to embezzle "biological" from the sentence doesn't leave a good feel, either.
  
  This feels more like an ideological war than an factual war.
  
  You are taking what they said out of context
  
  The “men in women’s sports” thing is just straight up transphobic, sexist misinformation.
  
  Eh, yes and no
  
  The subject is still debated, and there's no clear scientific consensus, even though the lemmy community will make you believe so
- The part at the beginning up to the middle
  
  Don't also forget the ending as well. The whole FUCKING thing is transphobic
- Now that it's been explained to you, can you explain to us what was so hard to understand that you needed it explained to you?
  
  The "intentions" everyone seemed to be reading into the post. Outsiders can only take the statement on face value.
I've sadly ran into this kind of thing before.

I'll never forget the assholes I found on Reddit who tried to say that it's wrong to push for LGBT Rights especially outside of the US because it was "Pushing Western Values where they don't belong, like a colonizer!"

These people will come up with any excuse to be dickbutts.

LGBT Rights are based and cool, and anyone who unironically uses the term "Biological Male" is not arguing in good faith
- LGBT Rights are based and cool
  
  depends, but in general they are
  
  and anyone who unironically uses the term “Biological Male” is not arguing in good faith
  
  I disagree on this
  
  "biological male" is if anything bad description of reality. A trans woman who has been on hormone therapy for a couple of years is biologically closer to cisgender women than cisgender men. And even more so if they've had surgeries. But usually people who use that term don't care and lump everyone who was assigned male at birth into that category.
  
  I could attribute this term to ignorance because it sounds reasonable, but it's far too often used to exclude trans women from spaces that other women belong
bourgoisie is based B)
I went and read the context behind this one. Posting just this comment alone is abit disingenuous. I didnt see any phobias there except maybe the fear of the ruling class in society.... Seems that dude was just talking frankly and making observations about what appears to be a contradiction in the original posters logic

full poat: https://lemmy.world/comment/11541457
- That context doesn't actually change the reading of the message as far as I can see.
  
  I'm not sure why the original poster brought economic politics into it, but the best possible reading of "where are these 'transphobes' and why do they need 'rooting out'" is only neutral, and none of it offsets the weird Olympic sports thing.
  
  So ... Yay for context, but nothing disingenuous about this post as far as I can see.
Clearly choosing to not include this in order to keep bashing on. Maybe spez is a better option for you?
- He's still doubling down and recently said he has no need to apologize or learn better because "I can never make anyone happy no matter what they make me say, I have work to do."
  
  If you really are concerned perhaps fork it then ? If the purity tests are not good enough for you to use a service, what do you use , I would love to get a list. Or is it just for Foss projects that's provided for free you have the purity tests for?
  
  I use GOS , and did so when it was a really toxic community a few years back.
  
  linux is also problematic here and there. Wikipedia I just donated to also. Hell I don't think there's a single project other than my own small scripts I use that would pass my own purity tests.
  
  Feels like a good psyop from anyone if you want to damage Lemmy and Foss competition in my meaning.
perhaps jovial?

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