MeanwhileOnGrad @sh.itjust.works PugJesus @lemmy.world 6mo ago

[Transphobia Warning] Nutomic’s Stance on Transgender People

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“If the capitalists are ok with something it must be bad”

Classic
- Same reasoning that leads to people praising authoritarian regimes like China and Russia.
- That's not what they are saying.
- I mean...
  
  Maybe we can examine issues on their own merits rather than trying to squeeze every round peg into the class struggle square hole?
Pretty much the only other time I have seen any transphobia on Lemmy is from a .ml user who called someone a chaser for saying they were married to a femboy. These people don't actually care about LGBT issues - they are just trolls who use it as a cudgel when it is convenient.
That's pretty shitty but not surprising for tankies.
Can someone explain to someone out of the loop what's transphobic about his post?
- Saying that the topic of "caring about transgender and LGBT issues" is promoted by the bourgeois is clearly not intended to indicate they respect those communities concerns.
  
  The "men in women's sports" thing is just straight up transphobic, sexist misinformation.
  It shouldn't need to be explained, but using "trans" as a label to attack a woman to delegitimize her sporting victory is just a hot mess of issues.
  
  This entire train of conversation seems bizarre to me. While I don't know the intention, the topic is being promoted by companies. Fervently. And having to embezzle "biological" from the sentence doesn't leave a good feel, either.
  
  This feels more like an ideological war than an factual war.
  
  You are taking what they said out of context
- The part at the beginning up to the middle
  
  Don't also forget the ending as well. The whole FUCKING thing is transphobic
- Now that it's been explained to you, can you explain to us what was so hard to understand that you needed it explained to you?
  
  The "intentions" everyone seemed to be reading into the post. Outsiders can only take the statement on face value.
I went and read the context behind this one. Posting just this comment alone is abit disingenuous. I didnt see any phobias there except maybe the fear of the ruling class in society.... Seems that dude was just talking frankly and making observations about what appears to be a contradiction in the original posters logic

full poat: https://lemmy.world/comment/11541457
- That context doesn't actually change the reading of the message as far as I can see.
  
  I'm not sure why the original poster brought economic politics into it, but the best possible reading of "where are these 'transphobes' and why do they need 'rooting out'" is only neutral, and none of it offsets the weird Olympic sports thing.
  
  So ... Yay for context, but nothing disingenuous about this post as far as I can see.
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