Two-Thirds of Americans — Including a Majority of Biden Backers — Want Biden to Drop Out
Two-Thirds of Americans — Including a Majority of Biden Backers — Want Biden to Drop Out
Ten Democrats in the House and one in the Senate have now called for Biden to step aside.
Man, this situation is fucking rough.
We all want the same thing: Continuation of democracy by ensuring Trump never touches office again.
But... Biden is obviously a qualified politician, a sitting incumbent which boosts his chances of keeping the job, and doing everything he can to be a good leader. On the other hand... I mean, we all know how things ended with Ruth Bader Ginsberg. She was one of the best Supreme Court Justices ever, and because she did EXACTLY what Biden is doing now and held onto the job even when it might not be appropriate to do so... Well, that's how we got Amy Coney-Barrett, a hard right supreme court, and the complete ruination of everything good that RBG ever did, all over that one mistake.
If replacing Biden with someone else was obviously possible, it would be a no-brainer. But... IS it possible to do that without giving Trump exactly the opportunity he needs?
It's a hell of a decision. One that might not even have a right choice.
Except that's not how Presidental succession works. If Biden dies, Harris gets the job, not a lifetime GOP yes-woman like Amy Coney-Barrett. The RBG comparison makes no sense.
Replacing the incumbent Presidental candidate a few months before the election is political suicide. No election has ever been won that way, and it's sure as fuck not a good time to start experimenting with bizarre and dangerous ideas.
The election is in a couple of months. Biden dropping out now would just be handing our democracy over to Trump on a silver platter.
wouldn't it be infinitely easier to just make him win, let him croak, and get harris in the job rather than have to start a campaign for her from scratch? within a few months?
The assumption here is that you can make him win, which is far from a given. Democrats win when turnout is high, and turnout is high when voters are enthusiastic about their candidate. "Vote for the senile guy! It's OK, he's gonna die soon," isn't a message that inspires enthusiasm.
This is why people say "you vote for an administration, not just a president".
Brandon has to go. I’ll vote for any D, but it’s clear that his showmanship isn’t cutting it. And let’s be honest with ourselves: the election is about courting fucktard undecideds in just a few states. Substance is ancillary. Thwarting and imprisoning trump must be our primary objective.
It doesn't matter what Democrats want. Ask a Republican what they want, and then do the opposite.
They aren't electoral masterminds, they're just bigots.
I mean, what Republicans want is generally just the opposite of what Democrats want, plus some additional cruelty.
The Republican side wants to stay silent and not complain about Biden until 2 minutes after he gets the full nomination.
As soon as he is the locked in as nominee they will be spending hundreds of millions on ads calling him a senile old fool.
This idea is being pushed by Russian propaganda farms.
It's main objective is to ensure trump wins. No sane person would want Biden to fold. To do so would absolutely ensure a trump victory
I'm not American, but I am sane. Obviously no one with an ounce of empathy wants Trump to get elected, but I don't know where anyone is pulling these opinions from, other than their gut: that stepping down would ensure a Trump victory, or that staying the course in would ensure a Trump victory, or a Democrat victory for that matter.
You are citing an article published by 'truth out'. If that doesn't raise a red flag to you I don't know what to tell you.
Biden is the current incunbent, so unless you are trying to get Trump to win by posting this, there's no reason to try to replace biden as candidate so near the election.You think Truth Out wants Donald Trump to win?
Do you also think Jon Stewart is trying to get Trump to win? YT
Don't put words on my mouth. I said that any site that calls themselves that should raise an eyebrow. And this is advice for you as well, you should pay attention to any site that claims only they have the truth. Reality is often complex and understanding it often requires nuance, so anyone that claims to be able to summarize it into a single truth always has an idea they want to push.
Notably because he is too old and not because of his genocide
Yeah someone should really take Biden's ak from him. You know, the one he personally uses to kill innocent people?
It's both. He was calculating (incorrectly most likely) that he could alienate the anti-genocide part of the party as long as he made up those numbers with independents and conservatives and whoever else. But then his public display of mental collapse meant that he wasn't scraping together that critical support either, so his support is plummeting across the board.
Without the pressure from the anti-genocide coalition he might not have ended up in this situation, as most democrats are ready to compromise, just not on killing children.
So many folks in here immediately jumping to "well Trump does the same thing but worse!" as soon as any question about whether Biden can win is raised, like asking if the candidate will actually appeal to the broadest swath of America is the first step on the slippery slope to becoming authoritarian. When did "Vote Blue no matter who" turn into "Biden is our only hope"? The people questioning Bidens ability to win aren't thinking about switching their vote off the blue ticket, they're looking at the data that suggests even with the Democratic base voting blue, it won't be enough to defeat Trump and are trying to think about how to expand and energize support for Democratic ticket.
The fact is Biden has been even with Trump in national polls for months and has been losing in swing states. Trump's base isn't budging and based on the fact that Biden's abysmal debate performance didn't move the needle it's obvious that the Democratic base isn't budging either. So the only movement that is going to happen in this race are swing voters and enthusiasm.
If Biden is going to run, great, I'd love to see him fucking do it! Because if his campaign is gonna be up this once a week, tightly controlled appearance bullshit, he is absolutely going to lose and will moreover drag the house and Senate down with him. If he can't turn things around, it's time to let someone else do it.
It's true that we've never seen a party win that changed candidates this late in the election cycle, but it is equally true that an incumbent president that has an approval rating as low as Biden's has ever won reelection. If the Democratic party is going to win in November, one of those precedents is going to be broken; people are just trying to figure out which one will be easier to break.