Bruh we been raising the alarm about Trump for the past 8 years. It doesn't move the needle. You know what does? A compelling alternative. The problem is, the way the primary is set up, only Joe Biden himself can make the choice to replace Biden on the ticket. He has the votes (thanks to running mostly unopposed), so the party can't actually do anything without Joe's consent. Many (including me) are still concerned that Biden should not be trailing Trump at all in the polls, given how many forces are running against Trump. This is why you continue to hear calls to replace Biden. Yes, you and me are going to vote Blue not matter who. But my moderate uncle in Wisconsin will not, and he's the kind of voter that is going to decide this election. And you can say all you want about Project 2025 or felony convictions or whatever. These moderates are stuck on the idea that this election is simply "the old guy vs. the rude guy, again", and raising the alarm about Trump just sounds like more liberal-whinging to these people.
I mean, you are correct also. These are all good points.
But it's just becoming the only thing people are talking about, at a time where pretty major trump news (Epstein papers) should be the major talking point. It's overshadowing everything.
i mean, i'm still deeply alarmed about the inadequacy of Joe Biden as a candidate. And I don't work in media. I just spent the weekend with moderate relatives that are ready to stay home instead of voting in November because they don't like either choice, and the debate solidified that position. Why keep it alive? Because this is maybe the only chance Dems have to actually win this election, and we're watching them slowly piss it away.
I would like a jelly bean tree, in the mean time I'll stick with what I can get.
Ok, I'll bite. Name his inadequacies. I will not accept his debate performance as an answer. Because, while it was horrible, he has had plenty of excellent speeches before and after. For example one of the best SOTUs I have heard in my lifetime (I'm old) and his NATO address.
Because at the end of the day nothing... and i mean nothing will please me more than Trump losing for a second time to an old motherfucker because Americans hate him more than we like an alternative
I find it baffling how much criticism/this stuff goes around and gets published. Which may not be surprising, it's central to the current politics, people are invested, and press is always interested in stuff like this. Hysteria and social media trends were a thing before too. Press always rides on about the same thing until it's over or something better comes along.
But with Russias huge investments in destabilizing the western nations with stuff like this, I have to wonder how much of it is caused or extrapolated by its involvement. Especially when I hear/read "on social media" in press, where Russias primary focus lies.
There's no simple or single answer in a complex world. But Russia is certainly looking at this in a very satisfied way. It and what follows with the election may very well be the culmination of many years of destabilization efforts.
This is almost certainly a Russian talking point. It's completely unstrategic, it's spreading largely through broadcast media, and it's easy to regurgitate with zero thought. Literally 10 articles per day about this, and none of them seem aware that the primary even existed.
the primary, where Biden ran mostly unopposed? that primary? i'm no russian, and i've been part of sharing these articles, because it's a concern that I have as a fascist-fearing leftist.
Right. The one where this magical replacement for Biden that doesn't have a name or a face could have jumped on a primary ticket if they had wanted to.
Do you really think that's not a possibility? Did you forget 2016 already? Sanders certainly wasn't wanted by the DNC establishment, and they even found ways to put their foot on the scale, but he was still on the ballot in a high-profile democratic primary.
If someone had wanted to replace Biden, as in like, actually thought they had a good chance of winning and wanted to do the job, there was plenty of time for that before the Russian propaganda machine started wiggling its way into center-left media outlets.
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Lawmakers have said both publicly and privately that the party is badly fractured on the issue, giving heightened power to drips of information from individual members who choose to voice their opinions.
It is a high stakes battle within the party as most members agree there is little time to change course if Biden chooses to step aside.
Oregon Democratic Senator Jeff Merkley, asked about Sen. Bennet's comments told NPR, "I do share those concerns and so do many of my colleagues."
On Wednesday, New York Rep. Pat Ryan joined Rep. Mikie Sherrill of New Jersey as the latest at-risk Democrats calling on Biden to step aside.
Even some close allies like former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., have carefully avoided speaking directly to questions about whether Biden should drop out.
Speaking in an interview on MSNBC's Morning Joe, Pelosi reiterated that she believes Biden has a great president but she took a careful approach to questions about his future.