3rd wave kinda.. did that on their own. Barely a few years ago there were 'feminists' shutting down MRA sessions by pulling fire alarms where it was literally a bunch of dudes talking about their problems. It's still relatively recent memory that people who called themselves feminists were some of the most unhinged human beings we had to deal with.
Yes, you can argue "those weren't actually feminists" or "they were extreme and don't represent everyone" but a lot of people still have those feminists in mind when the term comes up. It's not "men who hate women" who created this perception, it is the women who hate men.
The issue is men on youtube showing those few bad apples and declaring: "This is feminism"
You can find idiots in any movement. You can't "kick them out". Feminism isn't a club you join.
The issue is men like you not being able to think for yourself and simple believing what some dudes on youtube tell you.
Just about every critique of the feminist movement(s) gets quashed by ad hominem and accusations of sexism. Perhaps there is a need to reconsider how this movement treats men, and how much venomous rhetoric is aimed in their direction?
If you think feminism bad bc they fight against MRAs Idk what to tell you other than stop hating women. MRA's are garbage and have never given a fuck about men's issues. They're the male equivalent of terfs, using a progressive social movement as a guise for their bigotry. As someone who used to think 3rd wave feminism was cringe and bad, you really need to reexamine your views and question why you're still going to bat for MRAs of all people
Ah yeah the group of people that have the highest suicide rates don't have any problems to talk out. You're right, we should tell them to suck it up and be a man.
You're the reason I hate feminism. Please fuck off.
It is not the problem but a problem. I grew up in a western country and everyone told me, there is no need for feminism anymore. It took me years to understand that's a lie, but if you simply don't know were to get informations... if you are told feminist now are hysterics so you don't seek their help/advise... there is nothing left than to recreate the things you are told.
Cause if you get yourself educated you can easy become social isolated.
The problem is, no one can agree on what feminism stands for anymore, or rather, the movement is fractured, and all the different groups denounce each other. Feminism's problem isn't men, it's feminists.