World News @lemmy.world Five @slrpnk.net 5mo ago

China: death penalty for advocating ‘Taiwan independence’

countervortex.org China: death penalty for advocating ‘Taiwan independence’

China instated the death penalty for "particularly serious" cases involving supporters of Taiwanese independence. New judicial guidelines, entitled "Opinions on Punishing the Crimes of Splitting the Country & Inciting Splitting the Country by 'Taiwan Independence' Diehards," were jointly issued by.....

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Taiwan is already independent. Now come try and kill me
- !remindme 1 year
  
  If they do kill me I'll be sure to come let you know
- Taiwan is already independent.
  
  Its territorial waters are absolutely swarming with US and Chinese warships. Its economy is fully dependent on exports to its major trade partners. Its currency is in an inflationary spiral as it becomes increasingly beholden to foreign reserves to do business. The Taiwanese Diaspora is the same size as the island population, with most of the local developed property owned by these Overseas Taiwanese expats.
  
  They don't control their borders or territorial waters. They don't have meaningful sovereignty. They aren't agriculturally or economically self-reliant. They're just a spot on the board for the superpowers to fight over.
  
  You know I was genuinely interested to see if someone could come up with a meaningful definition of a country that would exclude Taiwan, but include all other countries. It seems like the solution is to simply make shit up, points for trolling though I guess.
Sensationalist headline, trading journalistic integrity for website clicks. But I suppose "shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than three years" doesn't draw as much attention.
- Imprisonment for simply saying something that in no sane world would be considered a crime.
  
  You wouldn't get imprisoned for simply saying it, though.
  
  "If the conduct specified in Article 7 of these Opinions is carried out and the circumstances are serious, causing serious consequences or causing particularly bad effects, it shall be deemed as a "serious crime" "
  
  You'd have to take a more active role, and your participation would have to lead to something more major. It even goes on to say that if you renounce your stance, the charges may be dismissed.
  
  But would give you a hell of a beating in the spanish Catalan referendum on Independence which was just a bunch of years ago and not some ancient happening.
  
  I'll notify Julian Assange.
- those identified as leaders or significant participants in secessionist activities, and classify actions causing “significant harm to the state and its people” as offenses that may result in the death penalty.
  
  I have this cherry for you to pick, if you want. Anyway, if your point is "independentism is not exclusively punished by death in China"... Yay? Best dictatorship ever.
  
  I stated my point in my original post.
- lemmy.ml is at it again
  
  Can you elaborate?
- What are you referring to here? Your statement seems to contradict not just the headline but the entire article.
  
  The first link referenced in this article. That article mentions the punishments and the severity of the crime required for those punishments.
  
  This article seemed to only latch onto the more dramatic portions and threats of the death penalty to generate clicks.
- Tankies like you are embarrassing.
  
  How am I being a tankie?
- Tankie
  
  In what regard?
- you know, I at least appreciate on here that, even if you're going to be massively downvoted for basically no reason, at least there's someone here making this post and then backing it up in their comments, rather than me just having to look at the headline and be like "yeah that sounds like fishy north korea style clickbait xenophobia to me" without wanting to actually look into it.
  
  So, good job.
  
  I saw this duck over here, quacking and waddling around, so I called it a duck. Some people took offense, apparently. There was some good discourse, though.
- You can't talk sense into these people, the propaganda and xenophobia runs too deep. China bad, to these people, regardless of what they actually do. These people don't want the truth. They just want their koolaid.
  
  It seems that way. I only addressed the article, and some of them were talking as if I was advocating death penalties for people expressing themselves.
Sign me up for death then, motherfuckers!
Death always to tyrants. Overthrow the CCP. Democracy in Beijing!

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