Western Media Covering Ukraine
Western Media Covering Ukraine
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Wait. You guys spread putins propaganda? Rly?
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You guys spread putins propaganda?
Western media used to spread Putin propaganda before February 2022 too, look.
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Listen Jack, there's no propaganda, anyway Cornboy war a bad hombre shakes hand of absent person showers nazis in money
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Wait. You spread bidens propaganda? Rly?
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Ukraine has a serious Nazi problem. You're going to have to grow up and learn to deal with the real world.
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Nazis in Ukraine doesn't justify the war, but it needs to be fucking addressed.
We are sending billions in weapons to Ukraine without the faintest idea where they end up, and which hands get to store them. Edit: We kind of do know, but close our eyes to that reality.
Last time we did this, it was Taliban/ISIS/Al-Queda. Shouts out to our Anti-Soviet freedom fighter Osama Bin Laden:
White ISIS might be just around the corner.
So what can we do? End the war.
Peace negotiations and humanitarian help for the people caught in the middle. Fuck Russia, but also fuck America and NATO. We(Western nations) provoked this war, and it has been brewing for at least a decade. We did absolutely nothing to prevent it. On the contrary: We supported fascists and nazis in Ukraine, and expanded militarybases across Russian borders.
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No investigation, no right to speak
Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it. Isn't that too harsh? Not in the least. When you have not probed into a problem, into the present facts and its past history, and know nothing of its essentials, whatever you say about it will undoubtedly be nonsense. Talking nonsense solves no problems, as everyone knows, so why is it unjust to deprive you of the right to speak? Quite a few comrades always keep their eyes shut and talk nonsense, and for a Communist that is disgraceful. How can a Communist keep their eyes shut and talk nonsense?
It won' t do!
It won't do!
You must investigate!
You must not talk nonsense!
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I mean the Azov Batallion is a nazi organization. This is commonly accepted knowledge and a result of Stepan Bandera (a nazi who wanted independence from the Soviet Union) being the primary driver of nationalist sentiment in Ukraine. The western media just want to pretend like the fact that they 'only' run the propaganda for the National Guard isn't bad enough to make every soldier a nazi.
...And that's a fair point but irrelevant to whether the Ukrainian military has fascist sympathies. Imperialist wars are always motivated by capitalist interests and fought with the blood of workers. The question is who's material interests those workers are serving, wittingly or no. The Ukrainian ministry is giving a lot of power very specifically to the tiny militia of Azov Batallion which I think answers that question.
Finally, yes it's also Russian propaganda but that says more about the west than Russia. If the Kremlin can invade a country and make itself look like it has the moral highground while doing it using commonly accepted facts you really fucked up. They might not be on the right side of history, but you are on the really really far outer edge of the wrong side of it.
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Well yeah I need these rubles to pay for my faux fur ushankas
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We have an influx of Liberandus here on lemmygrad too. Let's deprogram.
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I think on Lemmygrad we should really be proactive with banning.
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And then when you say you don't support Ukraine, you're the Nazi.
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And then you have PMC Wagner which is named after Hitler's favorite composer. Wagner, also the callsign of its founder Dmitry Utkin. Pictured here with a nice SS tattoo.
All big coincidences I'm sure :)
Edit: downvote away hypocrites :D
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you know it's complete bullshit when even the wikipedia article of the dude calls it out:
In 2016, Utkin was pictured at a ceremony in the Kremlin intended to honor the courage of military personnel and civilians, but he hasn’t been seen in public since.
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I ain't gonna cry for them, Nazi battalions shooting other Nazi battalions is just my stuff 🥰
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Famous defenders of Ukraine, the Azov Battalion:
What do those logos mean? 🤔
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Sadly (for you) Utkin did not found Wagner...
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Yep, they're bad too, congratulations
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Yea, there's a lot of stuff that the western media doesn't report on.
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Western media is like a well curated feed of coverage of events around the world in a way that creates a perception of world among the readers that suits their masters.
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Yep. It's all directed by secret services in a dialectical relationship with the haute bourgeoisie. They don't even hide it. They just gaslight us and say that even though the CIA and a handful of billionaires own and run so many media outlets, they're all independent because a watchdog they set up said so.
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Tankie media is like a well curated feed of coverage of events around the world in a way that creates a perception of world among the readers that suits their masters.
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Ironically they used to until the war. I remember watching a documentary on Ukrainian nazis I think from Vice(?). Where did it all go? Manufactured consent.
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its true, you really have to go to famously anti-western news sources like CNN to find out about it
oh man or the guardian, bless them and their fight against that darn western media
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Who made this?
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It looks like it says Drall in the corner idk tho.
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For the new users here, I recommend reading the following thread to understand why lemmygrad users take the stance they take: https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/418335
Is there a particular reason why many of y’all here seem to support Russia in this conflict? It seems to me that Russia are the aggressors, and I kind of understand why Russia invaded Ukraine (strategic location and reduce their border with NATO), but isn’t it still the case that Ukrainian and Russian citizens shouldn’t have to suffer and be annexed to Russia? I’m asking this question in good faith, I’m still a baby socialist.
In particular, I recommend @CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml's comment in that thread.
I also recommend reading this post: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/687025 (Titled «A comment on the Russia/NATO war»)
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Lets destroy a sovereign country and annex it because:
How do you even exist with yourselves. You are a joke.
of course, a nation is truly sovereign after a fascist coup planned and funded by a foreign government, this makes perfect sense
And it's truly sovereign after it gets destroyed and annexed by a different foreign government, really?
Fuck western nations but like also fuck Putin's Russia
Let's not kid ourselves, people, they are both nazi regimes. Russia is not the USSR, it is a mafia state. The existence of the Ukrainian and Russian governments is a crime against humanity, they are not our friends.
Instead of helping one side or the other, we should destroy them both. Putin and Zelensky should be hanged and their illegitimate fascist governments should be overthrown.
Once the Western thugs have dealt with either one of them. There would certainly be a in-fighting between these capitalists lusting after power and gold.