Lemmy.world seems to have banned the largest piracy community on Lemmy.
Lemmy.world seems to have banned the largest piracy community on Lemmy.
This is another post that alerted me of this. https://lemmy.world/post/13287681 [https://lemmy.world/post/13287681] And here is the modlog: https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemoveCommunity [https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemoveCommunity]
This has happened once before and they reversed it. But they said this last time too:
The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.
Lemmy.world sucks donkey balls and this isn't the only example.
Reddit 2.0. Always has been.
Considering how powerful is the copyright mafia (Remember that the pirate bay founder got jail-time) I totally understand why the people running the instance are doing so. I get why user are pissed off, but they're free to host their own instance and deal by themselves with the legal liability
I can see why they would do this if their servers are in the US, Japan, Germany or another country with insane copyright laws. If not this move is stupid, almost as stupid as hosting your server in one of those countries.
Neither the server or community host copyrighted content. You can't even directly link to sources for it either per the community and server rules. All the community does is discuss piracy which isn't illegal
True, but let's not forget that Lemmy instances are hosted by ordinary people without the finances to employ high price legal teams. If they receive a threatening letter from (for example) Sony or Disney they still have to either acquiesce or find a lot of money very quickly to simply argue their case.
In the US you can apparently sue software companies that make software sometimes used for piracy so it apparently doesn't even need to be illegal there for people to shut it down if they are rich enough.
Seems quite reasonable to remove illegal communities given how Lemmy works with the caching of all content locally. There is just a significant legal risk for the instance operators involved here.
Merely discussing piracy is not a crime. And that's all that happens in that community
It depends on the kind of discussion. Incentivizing other people to break the law is illegal in most places
Piracy is not breaking the law. Fuck capitalism!
Look, I agree with the feeling behind what you are saying, However its important to remember Morality is not the same as Legality, and while they can sometimes overlap they are difrent cosepts, Piricy is moral, but not legal. If you ask me, it is A ok to do somthing that is moral but illegal
Let me know when you get your piracy instance set up, and where it is and whether I can go there and do whatever I want on it
Not a suprise .world is like the most liberal instance I come across,
What does that have to do with anything?
Liberals are ideologicaly pro capital, and pro IP, Piracy stands in the way of both of them. It would be expected that they would block it. Honestly just a matter of time
…says someone from a lemmy.ml account?
Edit: Poked the hornet’s nest…
You mean someone with a 2 year old account? You know what instances existed 2 years ago?
Lemmy.ml is majority leftist, ie Marxist or Anarchist, not liberal.
Spoken like someone who thinks the only criticism of liberalism comes from the right.
I mean are you trying to say I do not come into contact with enough instances? I mean I will fully admit that I am an out and out Marxist-Leninist, I do not see how that comes into play with me saying it is the most ideologicaly liberal and narrow of the instances I regularly contact.
I still do not see how my instance has to do with my political annalisis. I think my name would be a much more effective hit here. .ml is a general purous instance... I literaly have red army in my name. Not only does trying to say "Your a filthy red" not change my analisis, but you did not even use your one chance to chose the most obvious part ot say "OMG YOUR A FILTHY SCARY RED OMG YOUR COMING FOR MY TOOTHBRUSH" I mean, I cannot say I was expecting better, but I am disapointed none the less, my account is literaly the name of one of my dogs, and declaring they are a part of the Red Army, the Army of the USSR... I feel like that would have been a much easier grab
Lemmy.world continues to prove that their biggest utility is in attracting the bulk of the Reddit Crowd so that other, more specialized communities aren't overwhelmed, and the older worlders can then join a better community for the long-run.
...attracting the bulk of the Reddit Crowd...
But r/piracy is still an thing. Crazy.
And it's a shell of it's former self. A lot of the serious members switched to c/piracy, db0 being the prime example
Lemmy.world is designed for people who want another Reddit. Interacting with their users & communities tells you all you need to know. I'd be a fan of defederating, tbh
What are the design features of lemmy.world that make it stand out here?
The instance beef is annoying to me, but i'm not here for the politics talk, maybe that's why i don't get it. I see pleasant and unpleasant users coming from all kinds of instances.
Thanks for pointing it out. Time to stop using my Lemmy world account. Bye-bye
Edit: or more likely just make another account and main it.
Piracy@lemmy.dbzer0
So Reddit can but Lemmy can't? Sad.
Well, a quick reminder that Lemmy.world is not all of Lemmy. Nintendo, the RIAA, the MPA(A), and other lawsuit-blasting organizations would have to tackle every single Lemmy instance.
Sure, one threatening letter is all that's needed to scare most server operators, but since there are a large variety of hosts located in jurisdictions around the world, it's not as simple as taking out the big player like it might be for Reddit.
The unfortunate truth here is that Reddit is a company and Lemmy instances are usually run by a few individuals.
We just don't have the politic barrier or resources to stand against the pressure
Again?
Interesting. This and other actions seem to hint that they got themselves into the crosshairs of legal law enforcement. You reap what you sow. I suggest that people don't ignore potential issues with an instance, because it does spill over in unexpected ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FFdbbcj4Ao