CFCs

“Whatever happened with the ozone layer panic, if scientists are so smart?”

We listened to the scientists, and the problem went away.

Similar with Y2K --- it was only a nothingburger because it was taken seriously, and funded well. But the narrative is sometimes, "yeah lol it was a dud."

When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.

I literally had this exact exchange with someone last year, when they tried to cast doubt on global warming by comparing it to the ozone. Another person did the same , using acid rain, and I pointed out that the northeast sued the shit out of the Midwest until they cut that shit with the coal fire power plants.

There were goddamn Nickelodeon phone-a-thons where you pledged to not use cfc products. This shit was serious.

Edit: I just remembered ,they talked about how bad the sun was for kids in Australia, or something.

Ah but the Ozone hole is increasing again in no small thanks to China!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2019-05-23/mystery-ozone-depleting-gas-tracked-to-china/11137546

https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/Copernicus/Sentinel-5P/Ozone_hole_goes_large_again

Imagine if we did this with climate change. Imagine if we tried to switch to renewable energy en masse 20 years ago.

This has since been determined to have tack on benefits in the fight against the climate crisis as well, it's halved the potential growth in global average temperatures by 2100, which cannot be overstated in just how fantastic that is.

We went from everyone being baked alive and having 20 kinds of skin cancer to boot to merely dealing with catastrophic climate change and society changing people migrations the likes of which haven't been documented since the successive eras of steppe invasions into Europe, China, India, and the Middle East.

Out of the fire and into the frying pan.

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Matt Walsh
@MattWalshBlog

Remember when they spent years telling us to panic over the hole in the ozone layer and then suddenly just stopped talking about it and nobody ever mentioned the ozone layer

Derek Thompson
@DKThomp

What happened is scientists discovered chlorofluorocarbons were bad for the ozone, countries believed them, the Montreal Protocol was signed, and CFC use fell by 99.7%,l eading to the stabilization of the ozone layer, perhaps the greatest example of global cooperation in history.

And didn't they find a bunch of Chinese factories pumping them out again not long ago?

Imagine that... Believing what scientists say? Who does that?

Grinds teeth and silently screams inside his head

Just to be clear, are we sure that the ozone holes are still shrinking?

TBH “The whole world agreed on something” narrative doesn’t really reflect what happened.

Actually, The Industry dropped using CFC after a cheaper and luckily safer alternative has been discovered right around that time.

Like he even read the response

Conservatives aren't used to the concept of "Problems go away when you do something about them."

They are stuck in the mindset of "The problem will always be with us, so just shame those suffering from it and isolate them so we don't catch their problem."

There are no stupid takes, just stupid people.

Wtf was that dumbest posting about? He never learned about CFCs in 8th grade high school? Embarrassing

Tell me you are dumb without telling me you are dumb

Matt Walsh be like "What is an Ozone?"

Remember when cavemen unga bunga'd about dinosaurs? Whatever happened to those dinosaurs! It's like the Flintstones wasn't actually the ground breaking documentary it was or something!

Matt Walsh, Nazi moron and overall creep, fuck that guy.

Good god this psychopath needs to be in hospice, drugged out of their mind.

I've always hated this comparison because the two problems are just not the same, at all. CFCs were nowhere near as ubiquitous as fossil hydrocarbons, and CFCs had an essentially drop-in replacement, which fossil fuels do not. There's no non-hydrocarbon fuel that we can just replace for coal, natural gas, gasoline, diesel fuel, jet fuel, etc. None that I'm aware of, anyway.

Misleading post, it seems to imply that it helped significantly.

You mean, listening to the science and actively working in tandem with that science works? Who knew?

Okay why the fuck has this been top of my front page for two days

Woow it’s impressive how you all follow the narrative. Here is your bone. Good doggie. My god

Tell me you don't live in NZ without telling me you don't live in NZ