Carlos Tavares CEO of Stellantis
Carlos Tavares CEO of Stellantis
He made 23.5 million Euros in 2022. This guy is at the head of a Monster of a Corporation that owns: Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroën, Dodge, DS, Fiat, Fiat Professional, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Mopar, Opel, Peugeot, Ram, and Vauxhall.
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Wow, none of those companies have a reputation for making quality products.
Kinda makes sense that they fit under the same umbrella. It's a large section of what I'd call mediocre car makers. Not the absolute worst, but far from the best.
Who's worse in build quality and reliability than Chrysler, Fiat, and dodge?
Used to be Hyundai / Kia, but they're blowing them out of the water quality, reliability and interior design wise these days.
No worse place to be than a Dodge interior.
Hyundai have been making reliable cars for a very long time though, my mother has a Santa Fe with over 300k km on it.
Indeed, I feel like Hyundai / Kia cars either shit the bed really early, or last a really long time like a Toyota. No in-between.
Case in point, my 2020 Elantra blew its engine at 7,000km. Got it replaced under warranty, doing frequent maintenance on it, going strong at 70,000 km with zero issues. It just now needed brakes!
70k km isn't anything to brag about though.
It's not, unless you've had issues in the first 10k km
Fair point. Most really cheap crap is long gone these days. But I'd rather sit in one of those three than a Land Rover, Ssangyong or Nissan (which has been plagued with horrible reliability issues as of late).
Oh god, SsangYong. I had an LDV work van until recently, when it blew a head gasket at seven years old. Rusty piece of shit.
Mazda
I test drove an Alfa Romeo Giulia and it was a shambles from beginning to end.
He pulls the demo car round, and it was out of fuel, had a flat tyre, the engine management light was on, and the oil temp was sky high.
This was the demo car. The one they use to sell people on the brand.
Noped right out of there and bought German.
Blame the dealer, not the car.
The Giulia is a very reliable car, actually
The Guilia that I drove for a couple weeks was great. Sounds like that dealer was shit.
Not true, Peugeot makes excellent pepper mills!
Is it the same Peugeot though? Or is it more of a Lamborghini tractors type situation?
Pepper mills are a separate division still owned by the Peugeot family.
What's wrong with Opel?
They're lame versions of Holdens mostly.
You mean Vauxhall, right? 😜
Opel, Vauxhall & Holden have mostly the same cars with different badges in different regions