[OC] What People Think Privacy/Security Is

The post is about security /privacy, the non American ceos political opinions don't impact that. Proton is still a good VPN/mail provider

Still secure

VPN services aren't for security they're for getting around regional blocks. If you want privacy build your own. But even then youll still be tracked
- They are multipurpose. You can't deny using a VPN over no VPN increases anonymity
  
  Incorrect. It just means someone has to throw money at proton to get that data instead of throwing at ISPs and marketing nuts. They are subject to the same capitalistic pressures as anyone else.
  
  I2P needs more torrents and more people.
  
  Torrenting over VPN service is also dumb. Why bother just get a seedbox that accepts xmr
  
  Seed boxes are also dumb. You are making a honeypot for yourself that can be monitored by the hosting provider.
  
  vpns are not anonymous just instead of your isp getting your internet traffic the vpn does theres also not a real way to verify what there doing on there servers unless your sitting inside of the datacenter monitoring it vpns where never supposed to be anonymous
  
  You're just letting another party harvest your browsing habits.

What's wrong with Proton VPN?

They're pro-Trump
- There are no alternative options for me, as a free user.
  
  that's fine for now. Mullvad is very affordable though.
  
  I'm aware. I will use it when i finally decide to pay for even more privacy.
  
  I2P and postman are free.
- How does that effect their privacy/security?
  
  It means they don't understand privacy very well so they're probably going to do a bad job at it
The Proton CEO is quite active in twitter and participates in podcasts. Well, one day he praised one action of the Trump administration on antitrust and a whole community attacked him for "praising Trump" when he did only a nomination for Attorney General for the Antitrust division. I highly doubt he is a MAGA supporter and listening to him for 30min on any of the multiple appearances he was on, will confirm you that. Several things concerns me on Proton, the CEO's ideology ain't one of them.

Unrelated to this, I wish people was more forgiven of Trump voters, it is not the monolithic the Left tries to portray it is. Trump sold himself as fighting the establishment, being anti-war and pro-antitrust (many small business owners supported him). People voted for him even suspecting he most likely was lying. Many people, both in 2016 and 2024, voted for Trump because Hillary was very pro-war (for instance she say she would attack Russian military directly in Syria) and Kamala proudly said she would not change anything on Biden's policy in the middle of Gaza's massacres. MAGA has many racists, many! (Democrats has is share too, but usually quieter but one can notice them at the grocery stores!) But what made Trump win was desperate disfranchised Americans with no other alternatives that promised Change. Europeans should keep quiet too... in the last elections they voted as different as they could demanding change to end up with Ursula von der Leyen for another term. Democracies in both sides of the Atlantlic are heavily ill and people, in desperation, vote for whoever promises change, independently of anything else.
- I wish people was more forgiven of Trump voters, it is not the monolithic the Left tries to portray it is. Trump sold himself as fighting the establishment, being anti-war and pro-antitrust (many small business owners supported him)
  
  Be prepared to accept accusations of being a fascist Nazi for saying this. You're right, but Lemmy is so extreme on this subject, that if you aren't with the majority, then you're an evil nazi pig--regardless of reality.
  
  I still get accused of it and all I did was vote third party in the election. 9 months ago! lol
  
  Stop having rational discussions. This is Lemmy.
  
  Good point! I forgot where I was for a sec.
  
  Screw me! I feel bad because instead of welcoming those now disenchanted MAGA, we are shunning them away and pushing them toward Musk's new party and the like. We did same mistake after Trump's 1st term too.
  
  Agreed. Lots of missed opportunities, and Lemmy is also shunning away their allies against Trump by overusing the words Nazi and Fascist to describe every poster that disagrees with Democrats. My gf, who is very very anti-Trump, lasted on Lemmy one day. One day!
  
  She said it was way too hateful and political. lol
  
  I feel bad even recommending it to her, and I don't recommend it to any of my friends anymore.
  
  Lemmy will die in a few years because of it's extremism. It's already slowing down. But I'll ride it to the end to prove to people that they didn't bully me off of it. :)
  
  Let me know if you find a better venue... I am also disappointed in Lemmy. Is it so hard to find a place where people try to understand why things are one way and another before slapping each other.
  
  I'd lived in a very swing state, in a very swing county and thanks to that predicted elections like no pollster did (even Trump in 2016 as he came down a escalator and every media laughed at him)... I saw no more malice in an average Trump voter than a Kamala one, I find a portion of them both as equally racist (some 30% I would say), one just is more vocal and explicit while the other chooses to express the racism passively aggressive.... Two black family moved into our street and one Trumper told me that he does not like the "blacks in front" and a long time Democrat neighbor told me instead... that she was going to move to a better school district "because demographics"... what is the difference?
  
  Let me know if you find a better venue… I am also disappointed in Lemmy.
  
  I still love Lemmy, and my main Lemmy instance. But ugh, everything is getting so political and extreme everywhere. I'm trying to transition into just posting my writing and staying in writing communities, but my reputation proceeds me (still no regrets and I still believe in everything I said) and things can downgrade pretty quick.
  
  And if I came up with an alt name, people would recognize my writing and say I was ban-evading.
  
  So ugh, we'll see. I'm trying to just stay out of everything political, but people mention my fucking name all the time anytime someone talks about "trolls." And I never back down when I get false accused. lmao
  
  I think the issue is that too many people think they can social-media post their way back to the Biden-era. Although in this particular Lemmy instance there's also the pro-Russia stuff (that's a different beast, and I don't know where it comes from).
  
  There's no solution to our political crisis that doesn't involve touching grass.
  
  I see how you feel with your Peertube song.
  
  Of course, Lemmy is an amazing FOSS tool, just sad many people (if so) are a bit toxic... Of course, I was blamed in the past as troll, bot, pro-putin, pro-china, pro-european, pro-american... and few actually get involved in a insightful conversation. The way i see it, Lemmy (or any of these mediums) are just entertainment and our work should be in the real world, with your neighbors and physical communities.
  
  I see how you feel with your Peertube song.
  
  haha, thanks! Yeah, I was feeling creative that day. I figured, "Hey, I should make a Lemmy song!" You reminded me of it, so I posted it to a nerdcore comm just now. lol
  
  I'm with ya. I LOVE the decentralized nature and concept of Lemmy. Just wish some of the more extreme rhetoric would die down. Because this would make a great creative space. People should def not take it quite so seriously and spend more time outside.
  
  But as an aside, I just had a talk with one of the admins for my instance, and it was a great convo and they are supported of creatives here. So right now, feeling good.