Berlin: proposal to remove 30 km/h zones because air quality improved, thanks to 30 km/h zones
Berlin: proposal to remove 30 km/h zones because air quality improved, thanks to 30 km/h zones
Auf Dutzenden Berliner Hauptstraßen wurde wegen schlechter Luftqualität Tempo 30 eingeführt. CDU-Verkehrssenatorin Bonde will dies zurückdrehen. Die SPD befürchtet negative Auswirkungen für Schüler und fordert erst eine ausführliche Prüfung.
The absurdity of the proposal is already in the title, and shows how motonormativity is spread all over the world.
Berlin has a very good public transit system, and a few 30 km/h zones cannot be that bad.
I would love to hear opinions from someone who lives there!
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Yep sounds absurd. As I unterstand it the problem is that you need a reason for 30 km/h zones. The reason was the air quality which is now better so there is no reason anymore. Some zones may be kept because the streets are used by school kids.
I think this is still absurd and good 30 km/h zones with synced traffic lights can yield a good traffic flow.
The fact that they have improved air quality is not sufficient reason? Do they think air quality is like painting a house, that it only has to be done every couple of years?
I can't speak to Germany specifically, but a lot of people don't think very much at all. They feel things, and make up words to justify their feelings. (We all do this to some extent, but for some people it seems like that's the only process running)
lot of people don’t think very much at all. They feel things, and make up words to justify their feelings
Right... and now they have magical eightballs that can justify with plausible sounding strings of words (LLMs) any feeling they might have.
We're doing great as a species! /s
Alien 1: "The humans appear to be sacrificing their whole species for their god."
Alien 2: "Which god? Yahweh? Abraham? Krishna?"
Alien 1: "No, it appears to be called 'Money.' Even their so-called atheists worship it, perhaps especially so."
Welcome to Germany, land of the pedantry-industrial complex.
They have a new conservative government in Berlin which wants to end "the war against cars" and rolls every progress back. They also remove bike lanes "because they cost parking spaces"
It doesn't make sense, they are conservatives after all
I wonder why conservatives are so retarded, in each country.
I am totaly with you on that. That fact that those zones did improve the air quality would be a reason for me to keep them.
So i guess you just want children to grow up with their lungs being coddled?
You want a whole generation to be weak?
I think you are missunderstanding me. I am totally for 30 km/h zones! What I said above is a official rule for where you can establish 30 km/h zones.
Is it a dumb rule: yes!
Clean air makes weak men. Asthma is strength.
I think the OP was being facetious.
It's Germany, if air quality is not in the pre-approved list of reasons, then it's not acceptable.
But don't worry, once they repair the fax machine they can start processing the request to update the list. In about 7 years it'll be done. Well unless the administration is voted out then the new one might forget about it.
If you improve it too much, the lungs of the people will become weak.
The air is better, but if we keep not ruining it, it will be too good.
Then the lungs of our children will grow weak.
The children will not be ready for the mines then.
Exactly! They shall be as coal and as bellows in our furnaces!
You dont get it, bad air quality creates strong lungs, strong lungs creates good air quality, good air quality creates weak lungs, weak lungs create bad air quality. /s
You really don't think posting this joke once is enough?
Weak children are no joke.
That is the reason they used to create them, but municipalities do have the right to create 30km/h zones in any residential area they choose, as long as it is not a major road.