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I see the fediverse is composed almost entirely of vegetarians. Feeling bad for a winged rat? Honestly? It's not like this man is just going around killing animals like Baron Trump...
I live in the French equivalent of NYC rat wise and trust me, either my cat or I get rid of the pests quickly.
You're a gross person
Go talk to your plants, I bet they're the only ones who tolerate you. 😤
If you have no empathy for animals just trying to do their thing, that is a good indicator that you'll lack empathy for people as well.
I understand they're trying to do their thing, and that's what happens. He's not going around torturing birds for his entertainment. And here I'm entirely on the side of humanity, lol, what? I feel bad for the dude, his day was probably ruined.
You’re a fucking crybaby, you fucking crybaby.
His day was ruined by his own actions, not the loss of a chip. Are you fucking dense?
??? He got assaulted by a winged rat. I'm about to eat chicken right now. It seems like you have a lot of feelings and that's actually nice and sweet but the direction is wrong IMO.
He got assaulted
??????
You could have just answered the question about being dense with a yes.
That's fat shaming.
Fat people are actually less dense
You're right! My bad.
Do ypu think we are in a war against seagulls?
They started it back when they stole a whole ice cream cone from my great grandpappy, I'm just ending it!
If his day is ruined by losing a bit of food, he needs to find someone to talk to about mental health. No one should be that close to the edge of violent response.
He got violently assaulted by a seagull and had a gut reaction with a seagull. I know you wanna equate it semantically to people being problematic with people but, again, unless you're even more peaceful and selfless than Aang from ATLA, you're just being emotionally hypocritical. Had he eaten the seagull or composted it to reduce waste, what would the problem be?
I'm sorry. I've had gut reactions before. Normal humans will swat or punch things.
It takes thought to grab it by the legs, and slap it on a wall.
But yeah, if it was just some unconscious reaction, then whatever. But in that case, I'm curious why a fuckin ninja is among the regular population.
❤️ I'd like to believe it's just some maybe brutish/unafraid but otherwise okay fella and not some everyday sociopath, lol.
Why are you randomly murdering animals you do not plan on eating? Your cat has instincts to kill so they get a pass but what is your excuse?
Do you not get that killing a seagull like this is not a good thing?
It's really not a big deal, and I don't understand why it should be. He had a moment of anger (very valid) and what I assume was an immediate, unthinking violent reaction (also understandable but it might have scared some people around, which is not as cool), else the bird would've just flown away. I feel bad for the kids watching it, but more so for the dude who just wanted to eat chips in peace. A bird is a bird, and he's not going around exterminating all birds in existence. Use your heart to give homeless people money, to raise abandoned kids and to stop imperialism and genocide.
I would argue the moment of anger bit wasn't valid or rational.
I don't think you should be giving anyone advice.
I think you expect too much of people in that case. Idk what tribe you're from (I can guess), but I hope you come from a land of peace loving, vegetarian erudites.
Please guess what "tribe" I am from
What about this was "random?"
“ I live in the French equivalent of NYC rat wise and trust me, either my cat or I get rid of the pests quickly. “
That’s the part Im addressing with my comment about random killing. I’m not talking about the article.
Again, purposeful pest removal is not "random."
This is a really useful line of argumentation.
That entirely depends on why you are killing these animals. If you are just killing rats or seagulls outside your home, that is random killing.
Sure, but nothing about it was RANDOM.
What do you think random means?
What do you think random means? Dude's not just walking around punching any bird he sees. There was a very clear cause and effect.
Not vegan, vegetarian, or even uncommonly attached to animals. But you are a disgusting person. Rats are great. Rats with wings are pretty cool too. Killing stuff that inconveniences you is psychotic behaviour. Simple as.
That's sweet. I hope you have the same level of empathy for human beings.
Of course I do. That empathy need not stretch into the loss of a fucking chip. And in front of children no less...
Well, at least you feel bad for the children, that's more reasonable.
Would you like it if someone grabbed you by your feet and killed you by swinging you into a wall? What the fuck is wrong with you?
Ah, of course. People and seagulls are the same and deserve the same treatment and the same considerations. And my cat is my daughter and I'm a pitmommy too. This is why y'all are weird to other people.
The only consideration a seagull deserves is death by mein fuhrer. You... wouldn't happen to be harboring any seagulls, would you?
Well, I'm not going up to people and stealing their shit
You've never stolen anything, even as a teenager?
What kind of childhood did you have where you think it's normal to mug people as a teenager?
Like threatening people or just snatching stuff like a seagull?
Either. That's honestly pretty fucked up, in my opinion.
Wait, did you not even do anything pretty fucked up as a kid?
No, not as fucked up as threatening or robbing people. Stupid, sure, but not criminal to the point where you'd need to go before a judge. Are you actually imagining that such behavior would be normal?
Feeling bad for a winged rat?
This is no about the seagull, it is about actions of this psycho. Swinging into wall? In front of children? Really?
I assumed the dude grabbed it as it was flying out with the chip and just slammed it quickly without much thought. He might have a horrible day/week, just wanted to have some chippies and this happened. Meh. 🤷
Oh for fuck sake...
Look, I sometimes have a bad day yet I am not walking around smashing skulls.
Bro, it's not the same and you know it. Equating people and animals only means you have less empathy for people.
I am not equating anything to anything. Smashing skulls because you have a "bad day" is objectively wrong.
What about a person who works in a meat processing plant? Killing hundreds of chickens a day. Are they a psychopath?
They're even worse, as they do it with no emotion. It's cold and calculated.
I feel inclined to purchase some meat today just to upset you
I was being facetious, but please do have a nice, protein full meal in my name! I'm gonna have some for dinner soon. 😅
Fascinating! So what about exterminators killing bugs? Does the size of the creature matter?
They're genocidal beasts and will go to Hell for 'taking care' of my apartment's cockroach infestation!
What about a person who works in a meat processing plant?
What about them?
Killing hundreds of chickens a day.
Yes, for food.
Are they a psychopath?
Why would they be a psychopath?
Sorry, I think I got my wires crossed between your post and someone else's. You were not claiming the person killing the seagull was a psychopath.
I called him a psycho, yes. He did kill for revenge, not for food. And in front of children.
I don't have any issues with killing for food and I love a good steak.Killing as pests eradication is also OK before you ask. This was neither though.
What are you using for pest categorization? Why are you okay with a seagull stealing your chip and not a rat?
I am not ok with either. I wouldn't kill either.
Pest control works differently. You are trying to kill as many individuals in a very short time span to cripple the population growth. Even if seagulls were classed as pest, killing one has nothing to do with pest control.
Don't feed the troll, people.
You're gross bud
Unlike the rats in my city, I shower.
I meant your personality. You as a person are gross.
I understood but I guess you felt it needed reiteration...
I just wanted to make sure that it was crystal clear that I didn't mean your physical appearance.
You couldn't know it!
C'est une perte totale de temps de débattre sur lemmy, c'est encore pire que reddit en termes de biais cognitifs et d'echochamber.
Pas pire que Reddit, non (peut-être?), mais je vois que c'est pas le e-paradis que j'avais été promis, mdr. Merci pour ta compréhension ! 🙏
https://birdfact.com/articles/are-seagulls-protected-in-the-uk
“[All gulls] are protected by law. This means it is illegal to kill, injure, or capture a gull.”
Legality does not mean morality, come on. If you've lived in the West, you know it perfectly well. Is this what the conversation has come to?
It's both immoral and illegal, and quite frankly it's indicative of a psychopath.
I think what you're picturing is way worse than what actually happened (although in all fairness he could've been chanting to Satan while f'ing the seagull, I'm just assuming it's how I picture it).