'The Crow' reboot was 16 years in the making. It's finally out, and critics say it's 'tedious' and 'unfathomably awful.'
'The Crow' reboot was 16 years in the making. It's finally out, and critics say it's 'tedious' and 'unfathomably awful.'
"The Crow" reboot took 16 years to make, but critics aren't impressed with the comic book movie, which stars Bill Skarsgård as Eric Draven.
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I haven't seen the original since I saw it too young as a kid. Anyone here think it's held up enough to be worth a rewatch?
It’s not a cinematic masterpiece but it had a distinctive look and vibe with a cool soundtrack, interestingly strange plot. I saw it again a few years ago and remembered why I liked it as an angsty teen.
Fantastic soundtrack. I still listen to it.
The original was a time and a place thing imo. It was a vibe that had a lot to do with the music, a lot to do with the awful circumstances surrounding Brandon’s death. You know at the time there were conspiracies a surrounding those circumstances tying into the death of Bruce Lee too so the movie had this lore to it from the start. The other thing worth mentioning is that at the time goth/industrial (dare I say it…) emo were an actual thing. I personally saw the first film in 16 up docs, my girlfriends skinny jeans and yes a touch of the old eyeliner. What I’m saying is it was relevant to a subset of the youth market. Not sure that’s true today.
Honestly, with the resurgence of the dress of goth/emo without any of the requisite music taste, a huge rewatch of the crow by gen Z could realistically give us a goth girl winter.
We always did joke that wearing all black would eventually be "normie" and dressing like a gap model would become "alternative".
Absolutely.
It wasn’t good when it came out, why would it be good now? I understand this is an unpopular opinion, but it always wasn’t good.
I loved the Crow, I thought it was awesome, but I was also a kid when I saw it. Nonetheless, differences of opinions are all good.
That being said, I'm not sure it stands the test of time
My friend loved the Crow 2 over the original and that blew my mind because I thought the sequel wasn't great ...
I was a kid too. All my friends loved it. They all wanted to watch it over and over. I found nothing good about it. It always just felt cringe to me.
If you were a kid when The Crow came out, you are too old to be using "cringe" as an adjective.
Edit: ITT: people for whom saying "cringe" is very close to their heart
you are too old to be using “cringe” as an adjective.
I'm 45 and have used cringe as an adjective since before most people who do were alive. It's not a new thing.
right, i can't use a word that existed before i did to accurately describe a feeling i have. got it.
I'm sorry, it was a careless comment and I should have known you would not appreciate it. If I wanted to complain about it I should have done it elsewhere.
The original movie came out in 1994, meaning that if you were a kid when it came out, you’re a millennial. ”Cringe” is early Gen Z slang and it’s a derivative of “cringe-worthy,” so it’s not like anyone is going to be confused about how to use it. What are you, the age police?
Tldr: Okay, Boomer.
The purpose of slang is to signal group identity. There is slang that says, "I'm a kid." I guess there is a cultural aspect but to my ear, calling something "cringe" sounds like something kids say, because mostly in my everyday life, I only hear children saying it like it made up a fair chunk of their entire vocabulary.
When a GenXer or old Millennial use it, it can come across as either affected or immature. shrug
The purpose of slang is to signal group identity.
That’s a purpose of slang, not its only purpose.
Slang can also be more efficient (“cringe” is one syllable; “cringe-worthy” is three) and it contributes to the evolution of language, leading some terms - like “cringe” to become more mainstream and to see use outside of the group that popularized them.
Besides, Gen Z might have come up with “cringe,” but millennials were practicing nounification, verbification, and adjectification when Gen Z was still learning to talk, and that’s all “cringe” as an adjective is.
to my ear, calling something "cringe" sounds like something kids say, because mostly in my everyday life, I only hear children saying it like it made up a fair chunk of their entire vocabulary.
The oldest Gen Z-ers are 27 and the youngest are 12, so almost none of them are “kids” anymore - they’re teens and adults. But there’s also a difference between using slang on the internet and in in-person contexts, particularly more formal ones. Slang that’s common in one group might not be in another group in the same age range, even if they’re geographically similar. But even so, I’ve heard millennials use (and over-use) “cringe” in public and in private.
When a GenXer or old Millennial use it, it can come across as either affected or immature.
A 6 year old in 1994 would have been born in 1988, which is right in the middle of the millennial range (1981-1996), meaning they wouldn’t be an “old Millennial.” But even if they were born in ‘81, my opinion wouldn’t change. Focusing too much on who “should” use a term like “cringe,” especially online, isn’t at all productive, and isn’t very different from telling someone they’re not a big enough fan to wear a t-shirt or to cosplay as a character they think is cool. They’re both just gatekeeping, plain and simple.
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Wife and I accidentally watched the sequel a few months ago, she was surprised I had never heard of the crow and I kinda had difficulty finding it on streaming. Watched the sequel first because it had been 15 years since she's seen it she thought that was it. Watching both close together I thought the sequel had a better overall story but production, budget and acting were all severely worse but enjoyed both.
Anything specific? I can overlook a lot of cinematic and technical issues in a film if the script and talent are good.
The script was boring, the plot was…boring. It was supposed to be like this fun, edgy thing and it wasn’t. They sold aesthetic, and for a time when that aesthetic was cool, this didn’t even come close to making it feel cool. I was a kid when this came out, and I saw it then and I didn’t enjoy it. I watched about half of it recently and I still found it boring and not entertaining.
Cut them some slack. Their star left the production in the middle of a shot!
That's what I was actually afraid of, thanks. I'm not the most critical guy about films, but I cannot abide a weak script.
I thought The Crow was universally loved
It’s a great installment in the grimdark genre. It won’t blow your socks off but it does the dark, brooding genre well.
I think it's absolute trash. But I don't even remember if i ever liked it. I used to hang out with some goth kids who based their personality around that movie so i always remembered it as "cool".
I wouldn't say it is trash, but it does not hold up well imo. The best thing it has going for it is its soundtrack
I've rewatched it and still enjoyed it. This was probably a couple years ago.