How do we actually get out of this climate disaster?
How do we actually get out of this climate disaster?
It’s April and I am sweating like crazy, it fucking sucks, but it also got me wondering what can I do? There is so much conflicting advice out there, even if I tell others about this, when they ask for a solution what do I tell?
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Nothing. There is literally nothing you can do.
https://interactive.carbonbrief.org/the-carbon-brief-profile-china/
"China is the world’s largest annual greenhouse gas emitter.
In 2020, it emitted 12.3bn tonnes of CO2 equivalent (GtCO2e), amounting to 27% of global greenhouse gas emissions, according to the CAIT database maintained by the World Resources Institute (WRI). This includes emissions from land use, land-use change and forestry (LULUCF).
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It is a “non-Annex I” party to the convention, meaning it is not obligated to contribute climate finance and was not required to make binding emissions cuts under the Kyoto Protocol."
Nothing changes until China changes.
Way to put the blame on China when all of the Occident delocalized production over there. Every rich country needs to change, and they also need to help emerging countries to develop sustainably too. We spent centuries destroying the environment for growth and now we're on top, we can't tell these countries not to do everything we did because it's not sustainable.
Agreed on the "not much you can do on an individual level" though. We need to change the way we consume and live but it's peanuts compared to what needs to change for mega corpos and countries.
Yeah, I'd like to see emissions attributed to the places where products end up, not where they're produced.
You can find data on recycling where "being shipped to another country to be recycled" counts as being recycled I believe. Also you can find estimates of historical emissions by country since the industrial revolution. China is the current leader of emissions but I believe the US is top of all time, closely followed by Europe. I'll try to find some data when I have a moment.
Edit: Historical emissions
TIL the antonym to orient
Given that China has ~18% of the world’s population, it’s not super shocking that they produce 27% of emissions (especially given how much manufacturing has been outsourced there).
By comparison, the US has less than 5% of the world population and produces ~11% of emissions, with only Saudi Arabia being higher in per person emissions.
And here come the finger pointing Ameritards trying to deflect their own responsibilities after polluting the planet for the last century and still refusing to drop red meat & cars and moving vast amounts of their production capabilities to China. If you advocate for China not to develop their rural shitheap regions, then you should also advocate for actual de-growth in the US, significantly lowering your own living standards.
How about we do that per capita, Cowboy ?
Can we, like... Put a lid on China? Like a big dome or something?
US emissions per capita are double that of china . So where do you want your dome ?
We can have more than 1 dome.
Domes for everyone!
Miniature American flags for others.