We do need to address certain toxic traits that are bringing things down, hyper negativity is the default as well as intense partisanship to the point where anyone with a slightly unpopular opinion is instantly labeled as an troll, bot, or agent of dark forces - you can see it a dozen times just in this thread.
There is no debate here because anyone who doesn't follow the groupthink is chased out, the news is super biased because of this but it also spills over in to everywhere.
I think there are too many people that think they should be the dictator of lemmy, we really need to start up voting good posts and useful content rather than knee-jerk down voting.
Yeah. This place is turning into a weird echo chamber. I guess since conservatives have a habit of fleeing places as well when they don't like it, maybe the same thing happened here. (Examples such as escaping cities to the country, homeschooling, constant denomination splinters in Churches whenever a mainline one gets too left wing, brexit, etc. any other examples of conservatives splintering welcome.)
The echochamber formed fast and hard here. It's really sad to see. It feels less like a new place and more like another clubhouse. And ffs, content is so slow. Gotta surf top of all time and still barely find content.
Yep. It's like everytime I comment maybe we are not really making ukrainian lifes easier by giving them bombs ppl will insult me or at the very least call me russian agent. I've never been in Russia, have 0 russian/simpatizer friends and I think Putin is a despot, bc he is. Five comments insulting me have been removed already. Please keep up the good work.
Downvotes aren't insults and no one replied to you except me. But I'm curious, how do you think letting Russia topple Ukraine would improve their lives? That's what not giving them weapons does, allows Ukraine to invade and take their country. And it won't stop there, Crimea and the current war is evidence of that.
I appreciate your interest for an intellectual argumentation. I guess you mean Russia to invade Ukraine.
The same way you said downvotes of my complaint about insulting me doesn't necessarily mean they support it, notice I never said the solution is to let Russia militarily overtake Ukraine.
Ppl love to talk how good they are doing to Ukraine, but the conflict doesn't really seem ending anytime soon. I just admit I don't know myself how this mess is solved.
That said, if I was ukrainian I would totally prefer to be supported by allied troops, not only bombs. Instead we made Ukraine Europe's real life Battlefield game. Good to test new military equipment and watch russians being blown up from our warm livingrooms and coffee tables.
Are you Russian or Chinese by chance? I typically don't hear people saying that Russia is doing a great job, instead I usually hear what you say, that it will probably go on for a long time.
Western countries giving support, weapons, and ammunition to Ukraine and also volunteers from other countries going to fight with them mean that they have a chance at holding Russia off. If Western support were to end, Russia would fairly quickly take over and annex Ukraine, which they promised not to do again after Crimea. Russia thought this would be a quick 3 day special operation, but they underestimated Zelenskyy and his ability to bring Ukraine together, so it's turned into a 2 year war. After 2 years, Ukraine doesn't have the supplies needed to hold them off.
However, if NATO invoked Article 5 for any physical or cyberattacks against, say, Poland, or if the US or any country decided to send boots on the ground in Ukraine, Putin and military leaders have threatened the use of nuclear force too many times to chance calling their bluff as when it comes to nukes, you only have to be wrong once and the entire world suffers.
So it's a complicated situation but currently the only outcomes seem to be supporting them with weapons and ammunition and intelligence, or letting them to fall to Russia.
Dude, did you even read my comment earlier? I said I don't even have russian friends or simpatizers. What makes you still believe I'm russian?
Anyways, all you say is captain obvious staff. Nothing new or own thinking process. I guess it's easier to sleep at night when all is figured out.
Listen one thing: it's true Putin threatens with nukes in case Nato troops join the fight. You are 100% sure the right solution for this conflict is to aid Ukraine militarily. But didn't Putin also threaten to use nukes if Ukraine was to win the war?
My comment was completely neutral in tone, why are you so angry?
I also stated plenty of opinions which are exactly that, opinions, not facts, and was curious what you would say about them.
I asked if you are Chinese or Russian because your English and typing style reminds me of Eastern European friends I have in Lithuania, Russia, and Ukraine. They all tend to type in a very similar way but with differences in word choice and varying degrees of English skill. I offered the choice of Chinese because you seem to be using Russian/Chinese/Indian anti-NATO talking points, but you don't speak as the latter two.
Now I'm curious, what country have you spent the most living time in?
I'm also curious, would you say that along with Putin being a despot, he is an authoritarian dictator tyrant who frequently has those murdered who go against his policies in order to stay in power, and has rigged the past few elections and has also rigged the current election?
I was actually bit too angry. I just can't stand ppl who ask without bothering to read previous messages. I believe your nationality curiousity is genuine, but don't u think that trivializes a rational discussion? U know ppl discredit ideas based in origin.
I spent my whole life 50/50 in two western european countries that are very far away from each other. What about u?
I advocate for peace of mankind. If I was born in China I would support Tibet and uygurs. But as european I first criticise our own evil acts, Nato expansionism, selective intervention in Africa and Middle East as well as the original goal to fight russians.
Putin would be the person I would hate the most if I was born in Russia. All your statements are proved true. That's just how it works in those countries. Instead in the west big business and banks literally buy political agenda.
Instead of slaughtering opposition at home we get foreign opposition killed, like when our big old ally Gadafi threatened the dollar with a new gold-based african currency. Like when our other old ally Hussein rejected western agenda. Like when Yugoslavia was deciding if it would perhaps embrace communism. Like when 'Al Qaeda is in Yemen', in other words houthis are close to control Yemen with it's critical implications in the trade route. Never intervene but support palestinian or african genocides. Those are some million war deads, all thanks to Nato selective intervention.
Numbers (of dead ppl, including non western lives) is what I put in the balance when judging what evil means. I prefer to criticise first home evil before facing foreign.