CDC workers walk out, join former employees in protest calling on RFK Jr. to resign
CDC workers walk out, join former employees in protest calling on RFK Jr. to resign
Current and former employees of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are calling on Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to resign, warning that job cuts and proposed funding reductions will hurt the agency's ability to protect the public from future health outbreaks.
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This is what needs to be happening everywhere. Definitely something that should be applauded. Is anyone taking up a collection to help fund and cover these people who are taking actual risks right now?
Precisely. Is there anything like the Minnesota Freedom Fund for protestors in LA, for example? The Minnesota Freedom Fund was indispensable during the George Floyd protests in helping release people on bail that would have otherwise been stuck in jail awaiting trial and could not afford to get bailed out.
There needs to be donations to all kinds of groups at the moment to support those who are risking it all and taking direct action, whether they are protestors in the streets or protestors in the government risking their jobs or walking out of their jobs.
Most federal workers are union members, they should have a Strike Fund for exactly this
Peaceful protests will not work at all, even if properly funded. And non peaceful protests will probably things worse. Full rebellion will just break things not fix them.
Only the democrats winning again and really fixing up things will work.
But during the Biden administration, the democrats with both chambers of congress and the presidency failed to adequately fix most damage from the first Trump administration.
It’s hard to adequately express how fucked things are. There are no solutions that liberals will accept
Do you have any evidence of this? If so you should write your own article. Literally an someone that thought the same as you looked into things and found otherwise. The article was just posted for it. look forward to seeing your research and reasoning on the subject.
Evidence of protests not working ?
Specifically the peaceful ones. You said they don't work that it requires violence.
The violent ones will only reduce people in threat of round ups to concentration camps, those are vital to have and I think more us needed.
The topic here was undoing sabotage to critical resources and other changes like that.
I believe that user is talking about this post (link to article). They are requesting some evidence or research that supports the contrary claim you are making.
Yea, I saw that and responded
I finally saw your link in the text, it did not show up in the response very clearly , and only saw it when I viewed here again.
I don’t think that article is relevant to my opinion which is that no protest whether peaceful or violent can undo the policy changes.
But think some protests can help rescue people from being kidnapped, but that is not a change undoing the sabotage of vital institutions.
I had a bit of a brain fart and hit wrong button posting before I had fully written. That's on me not on you.
And yes protesting isn't going to change policy directly. Only new policy will change policy. But protests often leads to new policy.
They're going to look for every reason to discount and disregard protests however. Specifically highlighting any small instances of violence. And specifically because it can change policy eventually.
But protests often leads to new policy.
If the leadership is either democratically elected or authoritarian. Here, it is neither, but instead a mishmash of things that do not respond much to protests of any type . At most protests will lead to superficial changes
What happened in the last six months that makes you think Democrats will do shit if they get power back? Or even the last decade?
I agree, which is why I think the one working solution has critical issues and will not work.
The Democratic Party would have to be reformed from the ground up, which requires things and behaviors which are not possible in the USA right now
Then let me come from a different angle: we don't need Democrats. Not as a group, anyway. I'm fine with individual members, like AOC, but the party as a whole hasn't been on our side. That won't change.
Instead, we should be looking to build solidarity with unions and community. If Democrats exist at all at that point, they'll be forced to deal with a very different political reality.
Edit: fixed some wording.
I agree with you on your points except I do not see how it works. Americans lost the ability to form new parties or organizations at the local level . It will be a long hard road to learn it again. And I’m sure they will.. eventually decades from now
The current situation will tend to sweep away a lot of institutions. The Republican Party almost certainly won't survive Trump, and there's a chance Democrats won't either. Even if they do, it's not like they could hold on to being a singularly dominant party forever. Not when there are so many people voting for them only to make sure Republicans don't take power.
They'll have to adapt to that situation or perish. New political parties can spring up quickly. We're not used to that in the US, but it's happened here before, and happens around the world all the time.
I don’t think this will happen soon in the USA.
This is because the USA is a complex web of non democratic institutions posing as the real deal, and most people seem fine with that.
Secondly, Americans as a group do not know how to recognize or understand when there is massive cheating by political parties, and seem incapable of applying standard checks or common sense. Whoever wins at the state or federal levels are incapable of changing the systems . Some states are actually real democracies but this is lost on the majority of people. As a group and culture this is set in stone and cannot change but slowly.
Thirdly, Americans went through two generations of mass migrations and job changes, local politics and grassroots are broken because of this. And will take years to recover. Political parties must be done at the local level.
This reads just like a domestic abuse victim defending their abuser.
The democrats aren’t going to fix this and have no intention of making anything better for you and me. Giving them “just one more chance” isn’t the answer.
I’m saying a functional Democratic Party is the only solution, it does not exist. No amount of violence or peaceful intentions will change that