What techniques do bad faith users use online to overwhelm other users in online discussion and arguments?
What techniques do bad faith users use online to overwhelm other users in online discussion and arguments?
I am aware of
- Sea-lioning
- Gaslighting
- Gish-Galloping
- Dogpiling
I want to know I theres any others I'm not aware of
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This is the perfect example of the purity test OP was talking about.
I'm comfortable "purity testing" active genocide.
Two people who couldn’t be more clear in their comments how disgusted they are by this obvious ongoing genocide, but yet completely powerless to do anything about it.
Only one of them is committing genocide denial.
What’s unfortunate is that you’re directed all you anger at each other since neither knows how to direct it at the people in power.
I'm angry at people who do genocide denial
Criticize the democrats all you want when they deny the genocide
I am, and I'm being told that I'm "purity testing"
but when we have candidates saying the following
And yet she activity supported the people committing this genocide. And even she is the absolute fringe of the democrats. The ones actually running for president support Israel fully.
I'm comfortable "purity testing" active genocide.
The reality is that you are comfortable letting Palestinians die by promoting inaction of anything that might help them.
I'm angry at people who do genocide denial
No one is denying that it is happening.
I am, and I'm being told that I'm "purity testing"I am, and I'm being told that I'm "purity testing"
The reality is that you are comfortable letting Palestinians die
Projection.
promoting inaction of anything that might help them.
I have never done that. Lying.
No one is denying that it is happening.
People are absolutely denying that the democrats participated in genocide.
What point are you trying to make with that screeshot?
I have never done that. Lying.
Your purity testing is doing that.
People are absolutely denying that the democrats participated in genocide.
I have not read a single comment saying so.
Your purity testing is doing that.
It has not. Lying
I have not read a single comment saying so.
Yes, but we've already established that you don't actually read comments, so that's not surprising.
No one should be told they're purity testing for criticizing the democrats.
Purity testing would be saying someone can't be an ally in criticizing the democrats with you because they're an enemy for voting for them.
Someone put a coin in my hand and said "heads is genocide, tails is genocide in a different way" and I really cared about not doing genocide so I asked "can I choose none" and they said "you can walk away, but then the coin will be flipped randomly".
If you walked away from that coin flip and left the consequences to chance, I really don't have a lot of patience hearing you judge me for all the burden and anxiety I put on myself researching which option was worse so I could make the least worst choice.
Walking away seems the easy choice here. You didn't stop the genocide, you just washed your hands clean of it.
Criticizing me for choosing, instead of being an ally, saying "that was a tough choice, but don't give up **here's what we can do next" is useless.
Instead of saying we should stay home and not vote, suggest something we can do. The endless criticizing of powerless people just trying their best in a shitty situation is why you're being accused of purity testing.
No one should be told they’re purity testing for criticizing the democrats.
Ok, well I am being. In fact, look at InternetCitizen2's posts to see him stalking me across different unrelated instances to accuse me of it, among other obviously bad faith accusations.
Purity testing would be saying someone can’t be an ally in criticizing the democrats with you because they’re an enemy for voting for them.
Again, look at his post history. I'm comfortable saying I can't be an ally with someone like that.
If you walked away from that coin flip and left the consequences to chance, I really don’t have a lot of patience hearing you judge me for all the burden and anxiety I put on myself researching which option was worse so I could make the least worst choice.
That's fine; so long as you're actually be honest about what you voted for, which is rare. Most of the people I'm talking to actively deny the Democrat's evil.
Walking away seems the easy choice here. You didn’t stop the genocide, you just washed your hands clean of it.
Atleast I'm not denying it.
Criticizing me for choosing, instead of being an ally, saying “that was a tough choice, but don’t give up **here’s what we can do next” is useless.
I'll criticize you if you deny what you chose, if you're honest about it I'll merely disagree with you.
Instead of saying we should stay home and not vote, suggest something we can do.
I'm just asking people to stop engaging in genocide denial. If lesser evil voting means rewriting history to exonerate the perpetrators of genocide, then I cannot accept it.
I’m comfortable saying I can’t be an ally with someone like that.
Because I want material benefits to Palestine? Not going "lesser of two evils" has not helped anyone. You are being a bad ally by stifling political support Palestine could have (and needs). Also I keep asking you what you real plan, so that we know if you have anything serious to say, but you keep purity trolling.
I’m just asking people to stop engaging in genocide denial. If lesser evil voting means rewriting history to exonerate the perpetrators of genocide, then I cannot accept it.
No one is denying anything. You are pretending people are.
Because I want material benefits to Palestine?
Because you're a genocide denier who abuses and attacks and lies about anyone who disagrees with you, including stalking me across multiple different instances slandering me.
You are being a bad ally by stifling political support Palestine could have (and needs)
And thats why we could never be allies: because you respond to disagreement by engaging in active slander and lies against me.
No one is denying anything. You are pretending people are.
No one is denying anything. You are pretending people are.
You have repeatedly denied that the Democrats were engaging in genocide.
See @WhatsTheHoldup? These are the kind of people I oppose.
Because you’re a genocide denier who abuses and attacks and lies about anyone who disagrees with you, including stalking me across multiple different instances slandering me.
Screenshot where I say it is not happening.
And thats why we could never be allies: because you respond to disagreement by engaging in active slander and lies against me.
We cannot because you are not serious about solutions. Please state what your position and policy proposals would be for clarity.
We cannot because you are not serious about solutions.
Neither are you, you just deny the genocide and attack people for disagreeing.
Please state what your position and policy proposals would be for clarity.
Do not engage in genocide denial and apologia, do not rewrite history to exonerate people who committed genocide. If your lesser evil position requires you to do that, it is not a viable position. That's been my sole proposition so far, and that's been so unacceptable that you've spent dozens of posts across multiple coms attacking me.
Do not engage in genocide denial and apologia, do not rewrite history to exonerate people who committed genocide. If your lesser evil position requires you to do that, it is not a viable position. That’s been my sole proposition so far, and that’s been so unacceptable that you’ve spent dozens of posts across multiple coms attacking me.
Bro your answer sucks so hard when you finally say it. War is brutal and you are going to need allies that show up. Check your privileging not being in a city under siege. Your answer is "I wont do anything and watch more Palestinians die because it discomforts me". That is a complete non answer and why you are a bad ally. Because you do not show up (and you are trying to discourage those that would).
Seriously. Check your privilege. Being well fed and warm. Of course you can afford to wait.
I take it back. You are not a troll. That is too good for you. You are just pro genocide.
What a shock that stating my position would result in you ignoring it and then making up a strawman. Just like you did last time I stated it.
Bro your answer sucks so hard when you finally say it.
"Don't do genocide denial" apaprentl "sucks", according to the genocide denier.
Your answer is “I wont do anything and watch more Palestinians die because it discomforts me”.
So once again, you didn't bother to read my post and are once again just making blatent straw-men because you cant accept disagreement.
That is a complete non answer and why you are a bad ally.
Good thing I didn't say it then, you just made it up because you can't accept disagreement.
I take it back. You are not a troll. That is too good for you. You are just pro genocide.
Again, that's you.
So why do you want to watch genocide happen? You "plan" is literally to do nothing and watch it happen.
So once again, you didn’t bother to read my post and are once again just making blatent straw-men because you cant accept disagreement. How shocking that you once again ignored what I said to just lie.
So where in those screenshots do I say there is no genocide? Because I am saying there is and we need serious steps to stop it. Speaking about being serious; what is your real plan?
The bit were you denied that the Democrats were committing genocide.
Speaking about being serious; what is your real plan?
What's yours? Supporting the people doing the genocide certainly isn't a real plan.