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I don't really get how the bad guys are a country fighting the literal Muslim Brotherhood who continue to hold American citizens and many others hostage for 529 days.
Because they are attacking civilians, children, hospitals and UN aid deliveries, and have outspoken goals of removing all Palestinians from their homes. War crimes and ethnic cleansing seems like pretty bad guy stuff to me. Both sides can be bad.
True both sides can be bad, but one side made secularism illegal and is funded by actual terrorist organizations and the other is funded by a nation-state who actually is a secular multicultural society inclusive of LGBTQ people.
secular
The secular, explicitly Jewish state.
multicultural
With a system of apartheid and that's committing genocide on another culture. I mean, I guess apartheid South Africa could also be described as "multicultural," in the sense that multiple cultures existed, with one oppressing the other. Nazi concentration camps? Very multicultural.
inclusive of LGBTQ people.
That doesn't recognize same-sex marriage and indiscriminately murders queer Palestinians alongside cishet ones.
Everything you said here is factually correct, in case anyone comes here to argue what you said.
So when you described them as a "secular, multicultural society inclusive of LGBTQ people," you were lying, then.
If you had any actual reading comprehension and some level of functional reasoning you would see that i wasn't describing the country of Isreal but rather who is supporting them.
Oh, I see, so it's the US that's rapidly descending into christofascism and conducting mass deportations and sending trans women to men's prisons which is the "secular, multicultural society that's inclusive of LGBTQ people," and you're just regurgitating shitty arguments used to justify the Iraq war because "inequality's already been solved here, now we just need to take over other countries to force them to adopt our peaceful ways" except somehow even less coherent because the country that's actually involved is completely indefensible and the people being targeted are being slaughtered even more indiscriminately.
I did read your "funded by" earlier, I just processed it as talking about like, the IDF being funded by Israel or something, because that's the only thing that would be anywhere close to being relevant or resembling a point. If I donate $5 to one side in a conflict and then shoot up a playground, does that make the other side automatically justified? If I give one side a gun and then save a baby from a burning building, does that make that side automatically justified? How does this work in your mind, exactly?
Hey just so you know, US is not the only Western country that supports Israel and I was not referring to them and actually Europe (Germany & UK), but you go ahead and continue to dig yourself deeper into that hole that helps you cope with this fact.
If the parents are bullying peoples children and then hide behind their own kids afterwards on the playground itself, it gets kinda tough to justify defending bad parents and someone needs to intervene on them in the playground. This doesn't mean, however, to wipe the playground off the map, that's insane.
Hey just so you know, US is not the only Western country that supports Israel and I was not referring to them and actually Europe, but you go ahead and continue to dig yourself deeper into that cope hole.
Then maybe you should speak more clearly instead of hiding behind ambiguities as a defense.
If the parents are bullying peoples children and then hide behind their own kids afterwards, it gets kinda tough to justify defending bad parents and someone needs to intervene on them in the playground. This doesn’t mean, however, to wipe the playground off the map, that’s insane.
What TF are you talking about? This isn't "parents bullying people's children," this is genocide. Nazi Germany committed genocide, was it "insane" that it was wiped off the map? Imperial Japan committed genocide, was it "insane" to wipe that country off the map?
Israel's fate should follow the example of South Africa, since it has a similar system of apartheid. Everyone in the region should be given full and equal rights, including voting rights, and since Palestinians are the majority, it will likely lose it's identity as an ethnostate. People can choose whether they want to stay or leave in the resulting country.
I could not bother to read anything but the last paragraph you wrote and agree with you on that so far
The Israeli killing of US civilians goes back at least to 2003, when American activist Rachel Corrie was crushed to death in Gaza by an Israeli soldier driving an armored Caterpillar-brand bulldozer as she laid down to prevent it from moving to destroy Palestinian houses.
https://www.vox.com/israel/371491/aysenur-eygi-israel-palestine-west-bank-idf-biden-blinken
What Fanon implored us to do was to view the struggle of the oppressed as a struggle to create a new mode of being, a new form of humanity. Within the revolutionary struggles of the masses, he insisted, lie the seeds of a new humanity. The ongoing resistance in Palestine today is not a new phenomenon, but is rather the latest episode in a decades’ long struggle for freedom and what Hegel and Fanon both agree on, recognition. Not recognition to live within shrivelled little cantons and drip-fed subsistence, but recognition as a human being in the holistic sense of the term. The stone throwing, the stabbings and the bombings are a reaction to a colonial regime which denies this recognition.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20151019-palestine-through-the-lens-of-frantz-fanon/
In an alternative reality where the literal nazi's are fighting the Muslim Brotherhood, would that mean that the nazi's are the good guys?
Both sides can be bad. There doesn't have to be a good side in conflicts.
Both sides-ing a genocide is bad. Difference is one side is fighting eradication for their humanity and emancipation while the other is doing the eradication for supremacy and Colonialism.
Fair enough. Assad was fighting ISIS, and he was still a genocidal maniac. Of course, Israel has a long way to go before they come anywhere close to that level of killing.
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Don't harass mods, they volunteer a lot of time to the community, and they have their right to an opinion if they aren't silencing others'.
I literally left lemmy.world as a user when the e-mail I used to register there was leaked and a Tel-Aviv based organisation started sending me e-mails to it, in my native tongue (which is not English), to attend their "Learn about Israel" online course.
I have little doubt in my mind that at least one of their admins is either a sockpuppet of a state actor or a rabid Zionist.
You can be pretty sure that if the former, their "Lemmy.world admin" time is being paid for.
Go on that link and check the editing list. It's very interesting and worth looking at the dates and how it peaks Oct 7 2023
Whatever you say nazi
Islam is wrong but a jewish ethno state that was formed by killing civilians and babies is fine. Fk off. Israeli prisons have thousands of kids hostage but guess they are not white enough for you to care.
Lmao this is a lemmy dot world moderator. Fk off nazi.