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prepares plate full of tortured dead animal parts and excretions
"why is there so much hate in the world??"
invades every conversation by describing normal behaviors in the worst possible way to make their position seem better
"Why do people hate vegans so much?"
It's just sad seeing the dissonance between people who don't make the connection (or lack thereof) between simultaneously thinking "I have a dead, tortured animal on my plate" and "I'm a good person," especially when it's so easy to just not hurt animals.
Once you see it, you can't unsee it. These behaviors are so normal because that contradiction is so commonplace.
Your technology has a high chance of having child labor in it. The roof over your head, the vegetables that you eat, the vehicles that you drive...
Why don't you see it?
I recommend looking at my response to the reply about "the good place" and continuing the thread there, it's the same ideas.
“I have a dead, tortured animal on my plate”
no one thinks that. and the animals aren't tortured, anyway
You need to watch The Good Place
I'm a big fan of the show. But we need to realize that we actually do have a responsibility to minimize the harm we cause when we're able to. I wouldn't accept "but you have a phone tho" or "no ethical consumption under capitalism" as justifications for buying a child-killing SUV, for example. It's just kinda defeatist.
And even if my choices make literally zero difference, and the world is exactly the same with or without my actions (which is just not the case), I still sleep better knowing I'm not contributing to the extreme and obvious harms of animal agriculture.
So you would applaud someone for eating less meat? Or maybe a veggie burger with cheese?
Me personally? I don't know if I'd applaud it, because if someone's still eating animal products (a) they still see animals as resources to exploit, not individuals, and (b) the chicken you kill on Tuesday doesn't really care about the chicken you didn't kill on Monday.
But for sure it's a great first step. Some people need time to adjust and I support anything that moves us in the direction of kindness towards animals.
very well said.
attacking the normalization is exactly the point.
You should be ashamed of your ruthless reign of terror against plants, harvested by the billions and modified by humans in ways that no longer resemble their ancestors.
It takes many more plants to raise a pound of meat to eat than it does to eat the plants directly, so we are still in agreement that the best way to minimize harm and respect the sanctity of all life is to eat a plant-based diet.
Not to mention factory farmed in artificial orchards, not freely growing in the wild. Absolutely disgusting. Did you know they don't even pick fruits? They have a big machine that shakes the fuck out of the poor tree until everything falls off.
Don't forget that there's only like 2 real citrus fruits the rest are all genetically modified fruits.