Lemmy devs are considering making all votes public - have your say
Lemmy devs are considering making all votes public - have your say
Question I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on possibly making votes public. This has been discussed in a lot of other issues, but here's a dedicated one for discussion. Positives Could help figh...
Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.
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I say yes!!
I have a particular set of people that actually follow me from community to community, just to downvote what I say and the articles I post. All because I posted a neutral article about the Green Party to the c/politics sub. That made them mad enough to be obsessed about me. lol
So if you are determined enough to do that, then ya shouldn't be upset that people can see what you're doing.
Yeah, but then what?
So you have confirmed that you have a fan club that likes to downvote you. What would you even do with this info?
Once you know the accounts doing it, you can block them so they can't interact with your posts anymore.
I'm pretty sure that's not how it works on Lemmy. For some reason "block" here is really what "mute" is everywhere else on fedi.
Yeah, that was what I thought to. It's just mute. Which is nice for the quiet, but I'd be great if the block would make them unable to downvote you and your posts as well. And it'd be nice if it wouldn't even let them reply to your posts. Because muting doesn't stop the poison the spread, just my personal ability to not see it.
I'd be great if the block would make them unable to downvote you and your posts as well. And it'd be nice if it wouldn't even let them reply to your posts.
I'm not entirely sure that's going to work out the way people think it will.
Suppose I'm some jackass that gets off on harassing you: if blocks prevented me from interacting with your content, and you blocked me, I would have confirmation that I've successfully gotten under your skin. I can then just make another account and continue what I'm doing.
If blocks don't notify or provide indication to the blocked party, they would either escalate their behavior (while you are blissfully unaware) and get banned by a moderator, or give up and move on to someone else.
There's also considering how that's going to work with moderators and admins: do they get to bypass the block and continue to comment and interact with you against your wishes? Does it hide your posts from them if they're blocked? It's a lot harder to design this type of blocking on a community-centric platform than it is to do for a microblogging platform like Twitter or Tumblr.
Because muting doesn't stop the poison the spread, just my personal ability to not see it.
That's what mods and admins are supposed to do. It's not the users' responsibility to moderate the behavior of others, and it's a lot less stressful than trying to stop toxicity when you only have words in your moderator toolbox.
Fair points!
I'm not sure which two trolls decided to downvote your comment saying "fair points," but here's an upvote for being a good sport about listening to me explain why your preferred implementation of blocking might not be more effective than what we have now.
Ahh, thanks. Truth be told, comments like yours (as in well thought out and logical) are why I love Lemmy so much.
I have a little downvote team following me around. Many in this thread have denied my theory about that, but meh, I can see when they're at work. So don't think that it had anything to do with your post, it was just my name that makes them rage out a lil bit.
To your points tho, I do think they are great, and I def wasn't seeing that side of things until I read your post. So great work!
If there was a team of downvoters following him around, then the number of downvotes he receives would be more consistent across his content, with older things having more and newer things having fewer.
Instead what we see is wildly varying downvote totals, seeming to depend on the specific thing he says. People disagreeing with his statements would not fuel his victimhood mentality though.
Personally I do check his account once a day to keep tabs on him. I don't generally downvote though, I prefer to fact check his statements.
I've seen a few "There's no record of this comment" and when I open up the thread in a private tab, it's someone I've bumped heads with but don't remember/care if I blocked them or they blocked me. I always wondered if it goes both ways, which it should, imo.
I'm under the impression that they can still downvote but you won't be able to see it.
Yeah, that's the impression I'm under. But if I'm wrong, then that would be awesome!
I wish.
Well I'd call them out on it and ask why they feel the need to do that.
Maybe, just maybe, if they know people could see how obsessive they are, it would take the fun out of the stalking.
I mean, at the end of the day, I don't care THAT much one way or the other. I just think it would be funny to give them a shoutout and welcome them to another round of downvoting.
I posted an article about a ninety-year-old woman being the oldest person to graduate from Illinois University. 9 downvotes within one minute of posting it. lmao
Right now they are laughing and rubbing their hands together when I post something, just so they can downvote it. Which is funny and sad. Like am I really that important?! lol
So public or not public, I don't care, but we can vote for, I'd say yes.
But I won't cry if Lemmy doesn't make the votes public. And I doubt there will be many Lemmy users that want their votes public, so I don't think it's gonna happen.
Wow I want my obsessed about me haters too. Where are you people
Wow I want my obsessed about me haters too. Where are you people
Go post an article about the Green Party into the c/politics sub. Not only will you get plenty of people following you to downvote, but you'll get called a "russian troll farm employee" every single day. So double win!!
Which politics comm
c/politics. Great mods. But the majority of users there really really hate the Green Party. lmao
What server though
Oh, Lemmy.world
Ah thanks had it blocked
You had some point, this looks like it will be absolutely deranged experience
You had some point, this looks like it will be absolutely deranged experience
Be prepared to hear that you are a Russian spammer.
It's been a wild trip, being Green these last couple of weeks!
And NONE of it has changed my mind. I still love Lemmy. and still loving the Green Party. :)