Skavau @ Skavau @piefed.social

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I very much doubt Ofcom knows what Feddit is, let alone Lemmy.

The OSA bill in the UK has caused a hamster forum to shut down over concerns of not being able to follow it (or the risks associated with non-compliance). It's an unbelievably wordy and excessive bill that is a bureaucratic nightmare for small communities.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/03/18/hamster-forum-local-residents-websites-shut-down-new-laws/

Look at what Reddit is saying. It's absurd:

For UK users under 18, Reddit said it has to restrict sexually explicit content; content that promotes suicide, deliberate self-injury, and eating disorders; content that incites abuse or hatred against people based upon protected characteristics; bullying content; content that promotes violence or "depicts real or realistic serious violence against a person, an animal, or a fictional creature"; content that promotes challenges or stunts that are likely to cause serious injuries; content that encourages people to use harmful substances or substances in harmful quantities; content that shames people based on body type or physical features; and "content that promotes or romanticizes depression, hopelessness and despair."

WTF? How is this supposed to work? A system that auto-blocks all NSFW tagged content itself as a blunt instrument is viable - but half the stuff on here, on Reddit here isn't even necessarily tagged as NSFW when its posted. Are extreme mountain biking or skiing or skateboarding or other similar types videos going to be age-gated because they could be content that "promotes challenges or stunts that are likely to cause serious injuries"? How do you verify whether or not content specifically romanticises "hopelessness" or "despair" exactly? Are Giles Corey songs now 18+? What does that even mean? Even the writing of it is Orwellian.

It also adds "depicts real or realistic serious violence against a person, an animal, or a fictional creature" ?????

Are action movie clips now going to be age-gated? Or video game clips? From TV shows and films that are PG-13?

!television@piefed.social should make it to 1000 subscribers by tuesday, or wednesday. Also, it's now the most active piefed community and brushing up on the frontpage of active communities per day/week as seen on lemmy.world.

He had changed his position after I wrote that comment I believe.

I'm really not interested in going down the rabbit-hole here on this with this user - but I have no reason to believe they're lying. I suspect I could probably look into this users posting history and confirm consistency here, but speaking generally - opposition to democrats/centrists/liberals (insert any other terms you like) also comes from the some of the left. Hell, if you're on Lemmy you must be well aware of this given some of its more controversial instances are full of them.

You might consider them useful idiots, or you might not. But they are genuine. But the broader point is that there's not much point going at it with a user who you think is just lying to you.

This argument then is going absolutely nowhere. I suggest you just stop posting replies to him if you assume he's lying to you about everything. I'll just note this response by him:

"Responsible for perpetuating a political philosophy that’s influenced a generation of smug know-nothing neoliberal trash that’s done nothing but continue the US down a trajectory of stagnation and will help usher in a century of humiliation and genocide."

A MAGA would not say this.

Pratai, it's pretty obvious that @djsaskdja@reddthat.com comes at this from a left-wing position.

I have no dog in this fight, but he's not MAGA.

Do you expect me to get notified when a big slapfight takes place on a thread here?

Sure. It was the mud-slinging that was the problem.

I've deleted one of the posts made to you that was provoking as well, if you look at the thread.

No, it's the being uncivil about it. I didn't delete your other posts.

That would be the case if most instances operated like that but most don't. Most will ultimately have it enabled, and if most of them have it enabled it will affect users even on ones where it is turned off.

I feel like this is speculative. I don't think karma systems across the fediverse are popular enough for that.

Is this a piefed.social change or a piefed software change.

Both.

If it's the former it's still a big trust issue because it can presumably be turned off and on at will, by making it hardcoded it can still be disabled but it's more work, requires maintaining a fork and basically guarantees that 99% of modlogs will be there and be recording.

You could say that about a lot of things that Lemmy instance admins could do, but choose not to.

People need to be the change they want to see. I came here because I wanted to run some communities, but ultimately it was impossible on Reddit. All the names are taken, all the aging mod teams set in stone. You essentially have no meaningful opportunity to build anything new on there. In contrast, and especially with federation, the Fediverse is a completely different system. A fresh start - still after 2 years. And it has way better internal advertisement of communities than Reddit does.

And to be clear, on Reddit you can easily just shout into the wilderness at no-one. Big audience means you can get drowned out.

Apparently, reading the details on there - he might not shut it down.

No idea, but it's not an active instance so idk what happened.

I mean Piefed communicates with Lemmy anyway.

Piefed has a lot more tools than Lemmy: feeds, following communities/posts and profiles and getting notifications for them. Flairs, hashtags and many smaller little things and it is getting a lot of updates compared to Lemmy.

The modlogs have already been made public by Rimu due to popular demand.

But also the problem with the Karma features is that they are present on all of them, turning it off in yours doesn't make the issue go away and doesn't prevent people from abusing it the way subreddits abuse Karma scores right now.

What's the issue if most instances don't run with a karma system? So you might get low karma'd in some piefed instances that you don't post from?