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So, I guess Threads is officially spyware... Not at all shocked, but, Jesus that's a lot of data they're wanting.
  • Because hating on Threads is cool right now. The spotlight should be on Meta as a whole.

  • Thoughts on federating lemmy and bookwyrm
  • I don't use Bookwyrm either, but coming from the perspective of Storygraph, I don't really think the average user there wants their review to become a talking point. I'm not really writing them for deep discussion or analysis, just my off-the-cuff thoughts on finishing a book, more for my own sake too. I also don't want to see threaded conversations when i'm skimming over reviews to decide on a book to read. Hence why I think it makes more sense for a publicly follow but don't interact type of federation for those types of services.

  • Need help learning how to read books again
  • Reading is a skill, and if you don't do it for a long while it can be hard to focus for long chunks of time. The 10 minute thing isn't a hard rule, just a target. But I do think at least for a while it helps to build up routine and focus as you get back into the swing of things.

  • Microsoft acquired Bethesda after hearing Starfield would be exclusive to PlayStation
  • The official VR apps for Skyrim and Fallout 4 were lacking out of the box, but they're damn good experiences with mods.

  • Thoughts on federating lemmy and bookwyrm
  • I think for me the problem with Bookwyrm (and one of the reasons I'm not really looking to move from Storygraph) is that I don't really see services like Goodreads or Storygraph as social networks. I'm more interested in being able to manage lists, recommendations, progress, etc than I am with interacting with users on those platforms. I think they're so specialized, that federating with those types of apps to Lemmy would end up a lot of noise on both that wouldn't really make sense for either.

    The only thing I can see making sense for federation for me is maybe being able to follow a reviewer I like via my Mastdon account, so I can keep track of reviews without having to log into the platform.

    That's just my thoughts though, but full scale federation vs something more like RSS to me is where the line between social network and app with social features lies for me.

  • Need help learning how to read books again
  • Start with a relatively short page turner. Force yourself to read for 10 minutes at a set time every day. I found that when I was in a bit of reading funk, I had to simply take it a day at a time with small, easily digestible chunks. Once you get the first one out of the way, it starts to feel a lot more natural to work your way through more.

  • Kev Quirk, one of the admins of Fosstodon (a Mastodon instance), destroys Meta in an email exchange.
  • Using the iMessage analogy, we're currently in a state where green bubbles can't interact with blue bubbles at all. Nobody should be expecting full interop with a corporate platform, but for the long run I'd rather have partial interop at arms length.

    Embrace extend extinguish only applies if platform is so focused that it cannot sustain itself without the extend phase, and the extend phase cannot happen without something to embrace.

  • can we like just not use bots to repost a bunch of stuff from reddit here?
  • I'm fine with reposting stuff like News, where it's relatively impersonal and I'm not necessarily concerned with comments.

    But I also like having more in depth conversations on the creative stuff. Just having bots post that feels impersonal.

    I guess it depends on the magazine.

  • Meta won’t negotiate with publishers, will end Facebook news in Canada - ArsTechnica
  • People aren't seeing the forest for the trees here. Yeah, nobody likes Meta, but the larger impact of Bill C18 will be that sources like Google and other large aggregators will stop allowing links to legitimate news sources, and instead be flooded by blogspam and misinformation.

    People won't suddenly be navigating to The Toronto Star when they don't get news on the latest updates in say the Corona virus in their immediate Google results, they'll just continue to click on through to whatever sketchy source manages to SEO their way to the top instead.

  • Meta won’t negotiate with publishers, will end Facebook news in Canada - ArsTechnica
  • This will essentially break Google News and the like in Canada. It's idiotic in so many ways.

  • Happened now
  • And this is why you always immediately turn on branch protection.

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  • I'm pretty sure the same thing happened to my printer. I ended up with a bunch of dumb photos, printed them out, and never used it again after that because I didn't want to buy more paper.

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  • The look of Gameboy Camera posts always makes me insanely nostalgic. It's such a distinct look, and I loved mine back in the day (still think I have it stored somewhere in my closet).

    Also cool: I found this Lemmy post via Kbin, then followed the Pixelfed user via my Mastdon account. Federation is cool.

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  • The look of Gameboy Camera posts always makes me insanely nostalgic. It's such a distinct look, and I loved mine back in the day (still think I have it stored somewhere in my closet).

    Also cool: I found this Lemmy post via Kbin, then followed the Pixelfed user via my Mastdon account. Federation is cool.

  • Kev Quirk, one of the admins of Fosstodon (a Mastodon instance), destroys Meta in an email exchange.
  • This doesn't surprise me. The idea then might be to allow for people outside of their walled garden to follow (likely for big name accounts, celebrities, athletes, important people) etc, but not really be a true federated instance. In which case, I think defederating is even more pointless. Just let users on an instance follow who they want to follow.

  • CTA: Create a thriving Fediverse without relying on Reddit
  • The more you call it a Reddit alternative, the more people will stop migrating over as the Reddit outrage cools down (and as much as spez can go fuck himself, he's right, it will pass). I think Mastodon had the same issue at the time of the Twitter migration, but lately it's been focussing more on the fact that good instances provide a nicer small community feel that's more reflective of the state of Twitter in 2008-2012 or so.

    Advertise the community, not the drop-in replacement for another platform that will always be larger and more mainstream.

  • Kev Quirk, one of the admins of Fosstodon (a Mastodon instance), destroys Meta in an email exchange.
  • I mean worst case you'll see @meta.com accounts in your Federated feed in Mastodon (which for pretty much every instance is already a complete mess), I don't even really see how it'll affect Lemmy or Kbin, as they're community driven rather than user driven. I follow users with Mastodon, I follow communities with Kbin.

    I dunno, maybe I'm being necessarily optimistic, but I do have friends and family who are posting on Insta/FB, and I basically maintain an account there to keep up with them. I'd love to be able to keep that connection without having to actually be locked into Meta's platforms. And I do think at least a few of my tech savvy friends would be willing to give a client like Ivory a go if they're able to do the same.

  • Kev Quirk, one of the admins of Fosstodon (a Mastodon instance), destroys Meta in an email exchange.
  • Personally, I'm not planning on using the Meta service, but I'm not a fan of pre-emptive defederation either. The vast majority of P92 users will have 0 clue what federation/activitypub is, let alone actually log into Lemmy, Mastodon, Kbin, etc. For them, they will forever think of themselves as @username, not @username.

    I'm totally fine with Meta releasing an app who's posts are exposed via ActivityPub, along with being able to consume other posts via ActivityPub. If anything, I would like to think it'll drive more people off the Meta platform and into Mastodon, as moving to a federated app doesn't mean they have to completely break connections with their network on-platform with Meta.

    Overall, I'm more in favour of allowing a personal user to choose to defederate from specific instances, because regardless of what happens, if Meta joins, there will be other companies getting on the bandwagon, and endlessly splitting up based of which instances federate with which others will eventually lead to the whole damn thing falling apart and the big players becoming the de-jure instances anyways.

    I mean, the vast majority of Lemmy/Kbin users migrated from Reddit, as did the vast majority of Mastodon users from Twitter. I'm fine with keeping things open to help facilitate more user growth to community run instances, while also having a place for the less tech-savvy to get their feet wet.

  • Was the lemmyverse/threadiverse aware that Mastodon has been convulsed for the past 2 days?
  • Not yet, but I do think that is something that should be implemented by Kbin/Masto/Lemmy etc regardless of what Meta does. There will always end up being instances that cater to niches that specific users won't want to see/interact with. Again, personally I think that should be a user level decision, not a instance level one.

  • While you're waiting on a kbin app, you should know the mobile site is entirely functional as a mobile app. Just make a shortcut for your home screen
  • It's fine, but not great. It works in a pinch, but it doesn't feel nearly as smooth/integrated as a native app.

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