Because "we are wasting your money" is false. They are either getting paid to try to advance progressive issues or they are getting paid to sit in their asses and promise to try once they have enough people. That they fail every time it's false too. Also assuming that putting up no fight doesn't hurt things is incorrect. Just letting the issue go and letting it become the new normal makes it harder to gain momentum on later.
I'd say for the sake of not jailing the innocent that letting the ones that can plausibly deny beat the charges is what we'd have to accept. I think that requiring that meta data would certainly be a significant new requirement but it doesn't necessarily make it an overreach. I believe that pornography production has to provide verification of the age of their participants and every porn site has some legal statement about the age of the people depicted. Categorize the meta data requirements similarly.
Outlawing cp doesn't stop it from being produced or hosted in other countries so we should give up on that too? Or should we sensibly keep a law against it on the books, build an international broad consensus to work against it, and apply political pressure to the countries that won't cooperate?
"There is plenty to be done at this point. Not being able to fix it 100% doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to fix it at all."
"It might not be immediate, perfect, or without resistance but it can be done"
Republicans are shitheads for sure but if nonconsensual ai porn presented to them with the right degree of moral panic they could accidentally do the right thing.
You think that Polaroids that were supposed to stay private were not shared? Thanks for finally reading the posts btw. Also what does pretending that revenge porn only existed for two years get you in this case? Taking it as true, it shows that a rapid response to recently emergent social issue can occur and that laws can be enacted to outlaw the offensive but previously legal porn. It makes my point even more applicable.
Those are pretty good concerns. Wonder if meta data about the model used and the prompt data could be required to address the issue of intent. I do think that accidental downloading would have to be an exception but if it's clearly labelled/advertised I think that downloading could still be targeted.
You are usually better than this. I did give you a perfectly applicable recent example of a type of porn being made illegal but you are ignoring it and misrepresenting my argument, after getting touchy about words being put in your mouth. You requesting multiple times and then choosing to ignore the valid response is a failing on your part.
I don't think you are trying very hard to see beyond your defeatist position. The revenge porn example should land close enough to the mark for you to see that things that were legal can be made illegal. Even types of porn can be made illegal. So because it has literally been done before, yes you can totally do it.
Also yes the centuries ago interpretation is fine. Still shows taking something that was legal and making illegal.
Nah you haven't really backed up with any solid reasoning. All laws have a date they were codified and enacted. Before that date the activities they covered were not yet illegal. Cp was at some point legal. Not long ago marital rape was perfectly legal. Now it's not. Revenge porn laws are going into effect. You totally can take something awful that was legal and make it illegal. It might not be immediate, perfect, or without resistance but it can be done and has been done, even recently.
Was cp never legal? Are you sure we haven't made things illegal that we're previously legal? People have this weirdly defeatist view about regulating ai deep fakes that doesn't seem based on anything solid.
Sure you can. Cp is something that complicit people are still willing to share. Generating and distributing fake non consenting porn of people doesn't need to be covered by the first amendment. Decide as a society that it's fucking gross and should be illegal and then treat violations of the laws created against it harshly.
Then what exactly were you addressing? You haven't made the intent of your initial comment clear at all. SeaJ said that what the guy did was fucked up and deserves more jail time. What does that have to do with your comment? He didn't say anything about the sentencing for the others.
Because "we are wasting your money" is false. They are either getting paid to try to advance progressive issues or they are getting paid to sit in their asses and promise to try once they have enough people. That they fail every time it's false too. Also assuming that putting up no fight doesn't hurt things is incorrect. Just letting the issue go and letting it become the new normal makes it harder to gain momentum on later.