@fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk @piratepost@poliverso.org @strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz @lealternative@mastodon.uno

But, in one sense, yes: this is a second hand account of Lemmy I have not verified. You should also factor THAT into your equations.

THis is the problem with the sort of "smear" or "negativity" habbits on here (and no doubt other/all social media).

That it's almost all hearsay is never stated nor understood. And the fact of the matter is that we all love to get negative about things, so it spreads like fire.

On twitter when taking down the corrupt and powerful, that's probably a good and useful weapon. On the fediverse about other instances and platforms?!?! Probably just a plain destructive behaviour to be frank with you.

If we're all too eager to make sure we're "in the good place" by shooting down anything that could possibly "from the bad place", the problem is we may just end up with not much of a place in the end.

@ada@blahaj.zone @lemmy@lemmy.ml @fediverse@lemmy.ml

Nice and interesting to hear! Random thoughts:

1. Is there something here about the intersecting dynamics between platforms and communities? Like, if the needs/desires of a community lead to alternative platform choices, does that community have more of a chance of thriving in an ecosystem with less of a dominant platform and central instance? Even though the "threadiverse" is basically #lemmy + #kbin, they're not at all dominant on the fediverse, and so most probably know about other things like mastodon etc, while how many mastodon users know about anything else?

2. I think there's interesting questions about whether "thrediverse" platforms (those more like forums/reddit than twitter, IE, the start with conversation threads rather than following users) are a better fit on the fediverse.

For one, there's the engagement problem. Arguably it's easier to find people when spaces based on interests are the essential structure.

Second, I wonder if it smooths over federation issues better by "chunking" what's seen and visible at a larger scale, that is at the community/sub-reddit/group level. I don't actually know how true this is technically, but I would imagine that once you follow a community/magazine on lemmy/kbin, you and your instance see everything from that community, not just some arbitrary sub-sample of replies like with microblogging.

Third, given the above, it maybe allows one to be more accurate when they say "it doesn't matter what instance you join"

Fourth ... there's a counter dynamic here which is that a community/group requires a certain threshold of activity to be compelling, which can be tough to get off of the ground. This is where /kbin is interesting as it fuses both microblogging and "threading" ... which IMO is the master format for a platform ATM.